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2005-08-09 Fifth Column

Fitzgerald: Why donât Muslims integrate into Western societies?

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Posted by anonymous5089 2005-08-09 08:42|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 If you look at Muslem "countries", you'll see that Muslims do not get along with each other either. You can't really have a society (above the level of a few dozen's members band) organized on the basis of kin selection (rather than reciprocity as our own).

Posted by gromgoru 2005-08-09 11:53|| 2005-08-09 11:53|| Front Page Top

#2 Not entirely fair. Most Moslems in the west are 1st and 2nd generation. As is typical with immigrants, the 1st generation still live in the old world, and want what it offered. 2nd generation are neither here nor there, and frequently go bad, forming gangs and mafias. In this case, the vast majority of the 2nd generation Moslem immigrants only give lip service to their religion, selectively choosing the parts they like, such as thinking they can do what they want to other people, and if other people fight back, then they are "oppressing" them. Only a tiny minority embrace the fanatical kind of Islam, that is, if it expects them to do something they wouldn't otherwise want to do. Like kill themselves or get thrown in prison for life.
N.B.: British prisons are filled with nominal Moslem young men, who really don't know squat about their religion. Toughs who drink, do drugs, and like the idea of having more than one girlfriend at a time. That, to them, is Islam.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-08-09 18:16|| 2005-08-09 18:16|| Front Page Top

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