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2005-08-10 Home Front: Culture Wars

Illegal Aliens can be denied benefits in AZ

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Posted by Jackal 2005-08-10 09:34|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I guess the 9th decided to do something different and use their brains for a change.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-08-10 12:06|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-08-10 12:06|| Front Page Top

#2 Don't get too excited. The 9th Circuit vacated the lower court's ruling in Arizona's favor because the folks who brought the suit can't yet show actual harm or an imminent threat of prosecution. As soon as benefits are denied or a public employee is charged this issue will go right back through the courts and I've got a case of beer that says that the 9th Circuit will spike the Arizona law the first time they actually hold on the merits of the issue.

Posted by AzCat 2005-08-10 12:21|| 2005-08-10 12:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Shades of Prop 187. Except in AZ, there are more reasonable folk.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-08-10 12:25|| 2005-08-10 12:25|| Front Page Top

#4 But the extra time taxpayers have to work to fund these non-taxpayer non-citizens due to the increase in financial success punishmentswon't be classed as harm.

You need to mug ANY judge who decides that taxpayers are there to be milked and take 50% of his/her wallet and claim you haven't harmed him/her.

Posted by Ulereger Clavigum6227 2005-08-10 12:30|| 2005-08-10 12:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Once again, note that one hundred years ago, Senators were not directly elected by the people. Its is long past time that the federal judiciary be directly accountable to the people as well. Since Congress has obviously politicized the process anyway, since Congress refuses to perform its function to remove justices for bad behavior [as in creating new law or levying taxes (see the Kansas City Missouri School system case)], the power of consent should revert back to the people. King George III was independent. We don't need to call this a republic or a democracy if we tolerate a new defacto aristocracy. Far fewer cases will even appear before the bench if the power goes back to the real people, not the neo-marxist claim of in the name of the 'people'. Lets move the fight from the Senate to the country. Why should the Senators have all the fun.

Posted by Thinemble Hupomotch7256 2005-08-10 14:36|| 2005-08-10 14:36|| Front Page Top

#6 The reality of life in southern Arizona is shaded gray not black or white: what to do concerning a undocumented mother of three, residing in the U.S. for years, whose children are all born on U.S. soil... ???

Posted by borgboy 2005-08-10 18:05|| 2005-08-10 18:05|| Front Page Top

#7 borgboy

As hard it is seems the 'black%white' view in me says to strip the kids of their citizenship and send them (and their mother) back. Citizenship should not be granted if either parent is illegal.
That is the 'hardcase' in me talking :)

Of course the law, as it now is, gives the kids citizenship. So legally we cannot deport them. However we should still deport and/or deny benefits to the mother.

We simply cannot give residence or benefits simply because an illegal had a baby in the united states otherwise we will invite (in fact are inviting) a flood of women to come here to have a baby in order to be able to 'stay' and/or get on welfare. And of course to deny the fathers would be 'sex discrimination' so we would have to give benefits to them as well.

Yes - its a hard line and a hard case. But we have to draw the line somewhere.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-08-10 19:25|| 2005-08-10 19:25|| Front Page Top

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