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2005-08-20 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by RG 2005-08-20 04:50|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Excelent,well said!

Posted by raptor 2005-08-20 07:41|| 2005-08-20 07:41|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm an athiest, but the sentiment resonates strongly with me. Well said.

Posted by phil_b 2005-08-20 08:08|| 2005-08-20 08:08|| Front Page Top

#3 I have discovered that this woman was a little kooky before her son was killed.* Of course, being a little kooky around the dinner table and destroying your life by mounting a show like this are two different things - she was obviously traumatized by her son's death. Still - the idea being spread about - that her son's death turned her against the war - is patently wrong.

* From Power Line blog - "As time goes by, and people learn more about Sheehan--e.g., her anti-Americanism, and the fact that she was so fervently anti-war BEFORE her son enlisted that she vowed to run him down with her car if he joined up--her ratings will no doubt slide further."

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-08-20 10:20|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-08-20 10:20|| Front Page Top

#4 There are over 1800 mothers who suffer from incredible void of losing a child in this conflict...
She does not speak for "Them", a majority of "Them", or from the best that I can tell (since the MSM isn't spending much effort checking on it) even a significant minority of the others.
Sorry Moonbeam, you are not the spark of the universe... and your handlers offer no solutions.

Posted by Capsu78 2005-08-20 10:31|| 2005-08-20 10:31|| Front Page Top

#5 ...she vowed to run him down with her car if he joined up

So she was willing to commit violence to stop more violence? Isn't that exactly the reason we went into Iraq in the first place?

Posted by SteveS 2005-08-20 11:16|| 2005-08-20 11:16|| Front Page Top

#6 Are the Berrigan Brothers dead yet? This is straight from 1968, Demo-Dino pee all over it.

Posted by Shipman 2005-08-20 11:38|| 2005-08-20 11:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Sheehan Crawford blog update:

Ever since her blog was posted, me along with other conservatives posted comment after comment on her blog. We saturated it day and night. I was accused of trolling, but I wasn't.

My comments and rebbutals were backed up with historical facts and actual quotes from Sheehan. They unsuccessfully fired back with their typical feel good responses. But I insisted over and over again that they respond with the facts to disprove my view. They found out real quick that they couldn't refute my view with facts so their responses were getting angrier and angrier. But, I didn't give up. I kept on insisting that they leave out emotion, but they couldn't.

Three or four days ago, they would have only a maximum of 10-15 comments per article. Maybe its coincidence, but when I started commenting two days ago, the number of comments started picking to over 50-170 on the posted ~~Leftwing Agenda~~ article. I'm by no means taking any credit, but the snowball picked up in size after I started posting comments, relentlessly. I don't know who you are, my fellow conservatives, I thank you for helping me pound the blog into the ground.

Final result: The "Crawford Update" blog is NO LONGER accepting comments and archive comments are no longer available. See for yourself. Hypocrites!! They only love "Freedom of Speech" when it fits their agenda.
Cinder "The Scam" Sham Blog

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-20 12:38|| 2005-08-20 12:38|| Front Page Top

#8 We saturated it day and night. I was accused of trolling, but I wasn't

Oh, really? Posting comments relentlessly? Trolling is exactly what it sounds like. Behavior like that would not be tolerated at Rantburg either. Claiming to do it in the name of a higher purpose is simply disingenuous.

Posted by SteveS 2005-08-20 14:45|| 2005-08-20 14:45|| Front Page Top

#9 SteveS,

Hold on now, that's not what I meant. What I meant was, that I had factual rebuttals everytime they threw something at me and it went on all night and carried to the next day. I wasn't commenting out of subject matter. I simply asked for facts on their rebuttals and I didn't give up on it, that's not trolling. If I come to RB and ask for facts with links, I will get in 5 seconds. If I didn't get facts, I'll keep asking for it until you kick me out. Then RB would be no different than a typical Leftist blog and I don't need to waste my time or knowledge at RB. Since that's not the case, I will continue post because I don't consider it a waste of my time or knowledge to post here.

I did mention words "historical facts" and "actual quote" on #7. But, you are free to judge me as you like.

Bottomline, they didn't want so many factual dissenting views to distort their agenda. There is no agenda here at RB, just the facts.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-20 17:39|| 2005-08-20 17:39|| Front Page Top

#10 Aris and Gentle are banned from Rantburg.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 20:13|| 2005-08-20 20:13|| Front Page Top

#11 feel bad about that UN-boy? Moral birds of a feather and all that?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-08-20 20:17|| 2005-08-20 20:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Mike, I don't get your point. What is it?

Posted by Darrell 2005-08-20 20:28|| 2005-08-20 20:28|| Front Page Top

#13 I was responding to #7. People with the "wrong" opinions are banned here too.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 20:38|| 2005-08-20 20:38|| Front Page Top

#14 Mike, I would say that people who are relentlessly arrogant and obnoxious are banned here, just as they would be banned from any traditional face-to-face discussion group.

Posted by Darrell 2005-08-20 20:49|| 2005-08-20 20:49|| Front Page Top

#15 Many of the Rantburg regulars are relentlessly arrogant and obnoxious, so that doesn't explain the phenomenon.

Aris and Gentle bit back at the dog packs. That's why they were banned.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 21:00|| 2005-08-20 21:00|| Front Page Top

#16 Interesting that you can defend the U.N., Kofi Annan, and Kojo Annan; you cannot stand many Rantburg regulars; and you count anyone who stood up to Aris and Gentle as part of a "dog pack" -- I'll bet you and Cindy Sheehan would get along fabulously. And yet you have not been banned. A real paradox, isn't it?

Posted by Darrell 2005-08-20 21:10|| 2005-08-20 21:10|| Front Page Top

#17 Mike,

Don't use my comments to promote your filthy Anti-American/Semite agenda. Use the US taxpayer funded UN money to get yourself a thesaurus and stand in your own sinking tar pit. Now, I think I will take a trip to Bangeldesh to have some jihadi throw some acid on me so I can be cleansed of yours and Aris's hatred.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-20 21:23|| 2005-08-20 21:23|| Front Page Top

#18 by the way, MS - I don't think you should be banned. Shamed and ridiculed for your defense of anti-american tyrants stealing OFF money to pad their pockets while keepind Saddam et al in power, yes. Abused for your nonsensical JUS posts to try and do what? Yes. I've called you a moral cretin and worse, but I stand by it. Banned? Noooooo you provide an example of what BDS and moral equivalence can lead to....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-08-20 21:51|| 2005-08-20 21:51|| Front Page Top

#19 Well, Aris and Gentle are banned here at Rantburg. From that perspective, it's silly for Poison Reverse to make such a big deal about comments being cut off at some other blog.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 23:10|| 2005-08-20 23:10|| Front Page Top

#20 banned? If you say so. If some other blog owner chooses to filter comments, you are right, that is their choice. To my knowledge, Fred, et al, are pretty lenient and notify when lines are crossed. "Relentlously arrogant and obnoxious" is a slur from you that I wear as a badge of accomplishment. I've made myself clear on how esteemed I hold you.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-08-20 23:16|| 2005-08-20 23:16|| Front Page Top

#21 Fred himself said he banned Aris.

Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 23:17|| 2005-08-20 23:17|| Front Page Top

#22 Aris made a decision before his required service time started...he crossed lines, something even he admitted. It's Fred's blog. If you, I, or Aris get out of favor due to our comments, it's Fred's prerogative to bar access. "Get your own" is always in order...

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-08-20 23:26|| 2005-08-20 23:26|| Front Page Top

#23 Yes, Fred can ban whoever he wants. So can people who run other blogs. I was responding to Poison Reverse throwing a fit here about comments being cut off at some other blog.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 23:45|| 2005-08-20 23:45|| Front Page Top

#24 Uh, wait a minute Mike. I thought that Aris voluntarily left before he got banned......not quite the same thing as getting banned.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-08-20 23:49|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-08-20 23:49|| Front Page Top

#25 Mike,

I wasn't throwing a fit about my comments being thrown out at the Left wing site. I was stating that ALL comments are thrown out because Left wingers don't like dissenting views. Re-read #7 and click on the link.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-20 23:50|| 2005-08-20 23:50|| Front Page Top

#26 Fred banned Aris.

Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 23:51|| 2005-08-20 23:51|| Front Page Top

#27 Dissenting views are not tolerated well at Rantburg either. Dissidents are hounded, and if they bite back, they are banned.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-08-20 23:52|| 2005-08-20 23:52|| Front Page Top

#28 test test test tesin me testes,

why ima not able post to mrr?

Posted by muck4doo 2005-08-20 23:53|| http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]">[http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/] 2005-08-20 23:53|| Front Page Top

#29 I still remember Aris saying he wasn't going to post here anymore. Not that he was banned. Self-exile isn't the same.

I don't see you getting banned here, Mike.

Just shot down repeatedly.

Not quite the same thing.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-08-20 23:59|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-08-20 23:59|| Front Page Top

#30 "Dissidents are hounded, and if they bite back, they are banned.

You haven't learned a thing. The problem is not dissiention. The problem is that dissidents think they can come to RB and fire some nonsense and not be challenged. Also, the problem is that dissidents resorts eventually to name calling a personal attacks when they can't anyone to agree with them. Please refer to Exibit A at page 1 "Bad guys meeting, training in Bosnia."

Back up your opinions with solid research links and you won't get bit.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-20 23:59|| 2005-08-20 23:59|| Front Page Top

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