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2005-11-07 Europe
Europe Fears Violence Similar to France's
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Posted by tipper 2005-11-07 12:08|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ... officials acknowledged that poor integration and poverty posed threats.

They just don't get it.

Posted by gromgoru 2005-11-07 12:26||   2005-11-07 12:26|| Front Page Top

#2 "Either Europe develops and supports the idea of a mixed culture, or Europe has no future," he said. "Europe has to learn from what the United States has done. It is a country that has taken in people from all over the world."

!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Speechless in shock!*
Posted by trailing wife 2005-11-07 12:37||   2005-11-07 12:37|| Front Page Top

#3 They just don't get it.

More welfare! More socialism! More, more MORE!!!!
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-11-07 12:38||   2005-11-07 12:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Bush lied! Disaffected youth of unspecified ethnticity and religion...err..umm..never mind.
Posted by Dreadnought 2005-11-07 12:44||   2005-11-07 12:44|| Front Page Top

#5 The key to stopping the violence is to harness the awesome power of socialism.

1. Hand out "car burning" permits that allow perhaps 10 cars per person per night.

2. Slowly reduce-down the number of car/night or vouchers to a manageable number.

3. Later sell the vouchers to raise more revenue for the state once a means of enforcing violations are in place.

Problem solved.
Posted by Master of Obvious 2005-11-07 12:52||   2005-11-07 12:52|| Front Page Top

#6 Austria's rightist, xenophobic freedom Party may be renamed to the We Tried To Warn You Jerks Party.
Posted by wxjames 2005-11-07 12:55||   2005-11-07 12:55|| Front Page Top

#7 1. poverty - France almost certainly needs more capitalism - but that doesnt mean they will have to undo the welfare state - France has many statists policies that restrict business, that could be liberalized, while leaving core social welfare programs intact. IE they could move in the direction of Britain, which still has a pretty full welfare state, at least by American standards, but a much more free market economy - and lower unemployment than France.

2. There does seem to be real racism in France, that keeps folks in the Cites from getting jobs that are available - they really are decades behind us, despite their "liberal" rhetoric.


3. It would be hard to argue against limiting further immigration while this gets sorted out.

4. Yes TW, some folks are capable of seeing what the US has accomplished.

5. The Austrian Freedom party are a bunch of racist, antisemitic jerks.

6. Order must be restored - not just in the short term, but a general crackdown on crime. In the US this was done, while police brutality was limited using civilian review boards - im not sure that would work in the centralized French state.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-11-07 16:11||   2005-11-07 16:11|| Front Page Top

#8 France has many statists policies that restrict business, that could be liberalized

Why does the word 'liberalized' seem so wrong when talking about a socialist system needing to be moved to capitalism? Here I was under the false impression that socialism was liberalizing laissez-faire capitalism? And just as confusing is that laissez-faire should be french.
Posted by Whash Unick6318 2005-11-07 16:29||   2005-11-07 16:29|| Front Page Top

#9 I have a feeling that these rioting bastards are no more traditional Jihadinutz than any of us here. As the Fr Interior Minister says, they are just "thugs". They aren't putting themselves up to meet 72 sweeties in angel-land. So, France needs to reinstitute the death penalty, and any rioter that kills someone, meets Mr Guillotine, and his severed head is mounted on the top of a lamppost for all to see.
Posted by BigEd 2005-11-07 17:28||   2005-11-07 17:28|| Front Page Top

#10 Big ED

Watch the following and reconsider

http://architectureandmorality.blogspot.com/2005/11/shattered-glass-dealing-with-north.html
Posted by Bush Mckenzie 2005-11-07 17:33||   2005-11-07 17:33|| Front Page Top

#11 They may be incited by a shadowy Imam in some sleazy mosque im ile-de-whatsitsname, but many (not all) of the trash and burn types themselves are just out for a "hot" time in the old town tonite, and scaring ther poop out of the people not looking for the same...
Posted by BigEd 2005-11-07 17:42||   2005-11-07 17:42|| Front Page Top

#12 "That means above all that they must master the German language."

No, I would say allegiance to the host nation, documented in no matter what language, would be the place to start. A few classes about respecting German society, a vow of non-violence before the court, a few tests to see whether you "get" democracy-that's where you start. Then German language and a policy of no free rides. When you do this, you enter a new life. Enjoy it.
Posted by jules 2 2005-11-08 00:00||   2005-11-08 00:00|| Front Page Top

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