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2005-11-21 Africa: North

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Posted by Steve White 2005-11-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 among five Moroccans freed from Guantanamo in August 2004

And so we see that those released from Guantanamo are often more dangerous to their host countries than to the U.S. But that is the decision of those in charge of such things over there -- we cannot be responsible for protecting others from the results of their decisions, no matter how much we have a cultural need to act to prevent evil rather than protecting our philosophical purity. (Thanks, Ptah, for the impeccable argument. You clarified the thought for me once again.)

Aside and off topic: 2b, you were unacceptably humble yesterday with regard to your value as a human being versus me, just because my mother did some tale-worthy things. You stop that right now, or I shall become angry with you! I have lived in not-so exotic Germany and Belgium for a grand total of five years, during which time I reared small children and had small dinner parties; the rest of my life has been lived in a nice suburb of snowy Buffalo, and nice suburbs of a-nice-place-to-have-a-family Cincinnati. The things I prate oh so wisely about I either learned about here at Rantburg, from books, or from the stories told around the dinner table by others, including Mr. Wife. My glory truly is reflected, not my own, and I apologize to everyone if I ever implied otherwise.

And if you do not stop this overly humble nonsense I shall cry, which means that .com will have to say "there, there," again, and make me a cup of tea. Which isn't fair, as he is in a ranting mode, after he had been uncharacteristically quiet for so long.

So please allow me to clamber down from what should be the world's smallest pedestal, and rejoin the rest of humanity in your estimation -- my balance isn't as good as it ought to be these days, and I might hurt myself if I fell off. I shan't be in for the next few days, so I shall have to hope you will have agreed to being sensible again. Thank you in advance! ;-)

P.S. If you dare to refer to any part of this statement as gracious, I shall seek you out and stamp on your foot (because I don't think .com would lend me one of his famous hunter/killer teams for this purpose, darn him!). Einverstanden?

Posted by trailing wife 2005-11-21 02:50|| 2005-11-21 02:50|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm sorry, everybody and Fred. It's because it shouldn't be at all about me that I just made it aaalll about meeee. Just pretend it never happened, ok? Thanks!

Posted by trailing wife 2005-11-21 03:18|| 2005-11-21 03:18|| Front Page Top

#3 Members of the network had links with small groups on the Iraqi border...
I wonder which border.

Also I wonder if it's not worth the risk to release some of these prisoners and follow them, their are bound, sooner or later, to join their own kind.

Posted by SwissTex 2005-11-21 07:21|| 2005-11-21 07:21|| Front Page Top

#4 There's nothing I'd rather read about than you, TW. Sure beats Islamowackos by a parsec.

Posted by Unereger Whetch3650 2005-11-21 08:13|| 2005-11-21 08:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Those Guantanamo guys keep turning up in questionable circumstances after we release them. And after they promissed not to do that again.
Shame on them.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-11-21 08:45|| 2005-11-21 08:45|| Front Page Top

#6 Amen to that UW, baby!!

Posted by badanov 2005-11-21 09:16|| http://www.freefirezone.org/firststrike.html]">[http://www.freefirezone.org/firststrike.html] 2005-11-21 09:16|| Front Page Top

#7 When we release gitmo detainees, I am sure the host country generally knows who they are and where they are. So I am not surprised if those detainees show up again. Watch and learn. Standard law enforcement procedure.

Posted by john">john 2005-11-21 09:41|| 2005-11-21 09:41|| Front Page Top

#8 GTmo detainees should be tagged with a tiny subcutaneous microchip prior to release.

One that transmits GPS co-ordinates.

Posted by Anon1 2005-11-21 10:09|| 2005-11-21 10:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Moroccan police have dismantled a terrorist network, arresting 17 people, including two former prisoners at the U.S. base in Guantanamo, Cuba, the official MAP news agency reported Sunday.

See Mr. Mazen? It CAN be done, and even by a bigger country, to boot.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-11-21 11:29|| 2005-11-21 11:29|| Front Page Top

#10 sorry Anon1, it can't be done

Posted by Dcreeper 2005-11-21 11:40|| 2005-11-21 11:40|| Front Page Top

#11 To expand on that, a GPS receiver is made up of an active radio receiver and a computer.

The constellation of GPS satellites constantly send a stream of messages that are timestamped with atomic clock accuracy. The radio receiver portion of the GPS receiver accepts these messages. Using the info encoded in the messages sent, the computer then calculates the exact distance between it and the satellite at the moment the packet was sent. From that it infers location.

This is done over and over (using an adaptive Kalman filter algorithm, for the techies in the house).

Which is a longwinded way to explain that GPS receivers require a fair amount of circuitry and constant power source. You'd need even more to transmit that location regularly.

The little rice-grain sized microchips used to ID dogs are passive devices (transponders) that xmit a short ID signal when they receive inquiries via very short-range transmitters (scanners). Won't work from farther away, unfortunately.

Posted by lotp 2005-11-21 12:28|| 2005-11-21 12:28|| Front Page Top

#12 #11 To expand on that, a GPS receiver is made up of an active radio receiver and a computer

TMI

Posted by Besoeker 2005-11-21 12:33|| 2005-11-21 12:33|| Front Page Top

#13 BTW, that was just a brief summary of the highlights of GPS, to address the proposal that is made from time to time that we microchip detainees w/ GPS tracking devices. You can read a little more, including about different techniques for improving GPS accuracy, here (among other places).

There's a wholly different GPS-based technique for centimeter-or-less accuracy, used in surveying instruments, positioning oil drilling platforms, etc. It ignores the message content from the satellites and uses Doppler analysis ... takes up to a minute to compute location, tho.

FWIW.

Posted by lotp 2005-11-21 12:51|| 2005-11-21 12:51|| Front Page Top

#14 Sounds like power consumption is the problem. Perhaps we should just charge up the terrs a little more before they are released. Say 200,000 volts worth.

Posted by Omort Cleating6948 2005-11-21 13:09|| 2005-11-21 13:09|| Front Page Top

#15 Inject them with a very slow-acting, untraceable poison and some virulent, highly-congageous disease that takes MONTHS to show itself, then release them all. Watch where the epidemics pop up.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2005-11-21 13:19|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2005-11-21 13:19|| Front Page Top

#16 Thanks for the explanation, lotp.

It wouldn't stop me from planting rumors on certain Arabic web sites, however, that we've solved these problems and that every detainee gets a chip implanted in, um, his prostate.

Posted by Steve White 2005-11-21 14:18|| 2005-11-21 14:18|| Front Page Top

#17 Rfid chips would make it easier to determine if a boomer or a new detainee was the guy we released earlier...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-11-21 14:24|| 2005-11-21 14:24|| Front Page Top

#18 I suppose ... but you'd need to scan them from about 2-6" away from the exact part of the body where the chip was emplanted. And you'd need scanners at every place where you might find someone but didn't want to wait a couple days for DNA results ....

All I can say is that if we do that, I'm pretty sure the female MPs would NOT Roger that suggestion about prostates ... ugh.

Posted by lotp 2005-11-21 16:22|| 2005-11-21 16:22|| Front Page Top

#19 "Prostate" is a good lie, but since what seems to be left of a boomer is his head, rethink your placement scenario.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2005-11-21 18:56|| 2005-11-21 18:56|| Front Page Top

#20 RFID is fine. It would be fun to tag them with some store sensors too. That way they would always be noticable evertime they go into or out of a store.

Posted by 3dc 2005-11-21 20:42|| 2005-11-21 20:42|| Front Page Top

#21 Everyone, except the jihadis, knows the implants are deep within the upper intestine of the releasees. The only way to check is to disembowel them. Allanwills it

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