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2005-12-09 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Steve White 2005-12-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 If somebody was suing me.. why would I want them to just wander about in my house?

Posted by 3dc 2005-12-09 00:28|| 2005-12-09 00:28|| Front Page Top

#2 If there's no national security basis to bar him, I think Supreme Court decisions on the Alien Tort Claims Act may require the US to permit his presence as a plaintiff. Happily, those same decisions ought to give the government a slam-dunk defense. If I recall correctly, constitutional protections do not apply to foreigners for acts committed by US agents on foreign soil.

Posted by ST 2005-12-09 01:14|| 2005-12-09 01:14|| Front Page Top

#3 Assuming for just a second that some State Dept seditionist doesn't figure out how to screw us and let this clown in...

We don't need a national security basis to deny entry - it's still our country and he's obviously not welcome. I don't much care for Tenet, I think he's about the biggest flop as CIA #1 since its founding, but fuck it - this guy's a tool of the wankers. Neener-neener twit. Put on yer best lederhosen and yodel in Arabic, bitch.

When the ACLU and AlG finally get their OWG Socialist Miracle, then they can pontificate about who gets into the US and who doesn't. I'm hoping we can "cure" the ACLU's current ills by more, um, "direct" means than employing a bunch of opposing lawyers. That's much too civil. AlG and all of the Tranzis can kiss my very hairy American ass, methinks. They've meddled enough, already.

Posted by .com 2005-12-09 02:57|| 2005-12-09 02:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Agreed on all points, .com -- I'm jus' sayin, the Supreme Cow doesn't like snatch'n'grabs abroad, and executive branch be damned, often rules in favor of douchebags like this more often than not. Access to justice, notice & opportunity to be heard, yada yada. Hamdi is an especially outrageous example. Anyway, I'm sure the ACLU's next move will be to forum-shop till they find a judge who says we have to let plaintiffs in. OWG and tranzis already run the show. If some State seditionist doesn't let him in, I'm sure a judicial one will. Meanwhile, you could always send this hapless "German man" a nice Christmas ham!

Posted by ST 2005-12-09 04:31|| 2005-12-09 04:31|| Front Page Top

#5 Lol, ST. A fine Bavarian, spiral-sliced? And yep, you're right - some "judicial" politician will be located who can fuzzy-up some wheretofore's 'n howsoever's and declare this Muzzy Deutschlander has US standing.

Posted by .com 2005-12-09 04:46|| 2005-12-09 04:46|| Front Page Top

#6 ST, wouldn't the Alien Tort Claims Act only come into play when the case goes to court (assuming he gets permission to sue)? Right now he's only publicizing the case.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-12-09 07:16|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-12-09 07:16|| Front Page Top

#7 Looks like the lawsuit was filed Tuesday. Hafta state a cause of action when you file, and I'd bet the ATCA forms the basis of some or all of his claims. Standing may be an issue, but if he claims abuse at the hands of US agents -- regardless of his citizenship or the location -- that's prolly good enough to get in the door. And I don't see why it can't be litigated in his absence. I'm sure the ACLU cares more about eroding US security in any way possible than they do about the specific fate of Herr Al-Masri, but getting him into the country would further that as well.

Posted by ST 2005-12-09 09:41|| 2005-12-09 09:41|| Front Page Top

#8 Just shoot him and pay is wife off. It will be cheaper.

Posted by Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu 2005-12-09 19:36|| 2005-12-09 19:36|| Front Page Top

#9 and his attorney

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-09 19:54|| 2005-12-09 19:54|| Front Page Top

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