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2006-02-12 Home Front: Politix
CIA officials who identified European detention sites ID'd
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-02-12 02:08|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

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Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2006-02-12 02:22||   2006-02-12 02:22|| Front Page Top

#2 He should not have just been fired. He leaked to the press, should go to jail. Porter's house cleaning is much overdue.
Posted by 49 pan">49 pan  2006-02-12 08:40||   2006-02-12 08:40|| Front Page Top

#3 Fire the entire CIA. Build up a different agency with known agents that to the fucking job. Let the rest languish in the unemployment line.
Posted by mmurray821 2006-02-12 09:15||   2006-02-12 09:15|| Front Page Top

#4 LOL SPoD! Yer gonna get it!
Posted by 6 2006-02-12 10:37||   2006-02-12 10:37|| Front Page Top

#5 That baby's been up a full shift now. Mods must be caught in the blizzard. (Global warming dontcha know?)
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-02-12 11:22||   2006-02-12 11:22|| Front Page Top

#6 What would Jack Bauer do?
Posted by DMFD 2006-02-12 12:51||   2006-02-12 12:51|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm here. C'mon guys, we don't need pics like that. I understand the sentiment, but remember, we're on the web.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-02-12 12:52||   2006-02-12 12:52|| Front Page Top

#8 "Since the appointment of Goss, the CIA has lost almost all its high-level directors amid considerable turmoil."

Carrying out the Clintoon trash.

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I'd like to offer what is, I'm sure, a minority view -- in favor of SPo'D's post...

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I think SPo'D's pic, and the sentiments it represents, was spot on. Dead solid fucking perfect. So spot on, in fact, that less strikes me as a lie - whereas SPo'D's was precisely to the point. Couldn't have been more accurate or succinct.

These "people" are traitors - guilty of treason. What they have engaged in is no little prank or wrist-slap offense. They aren't whistle-blowers - they're traitors.

The "people" in question hold extremely sensitive and powerful positions of trust and access within our government -- and are actively working against the elected government of the United States of America. It's called betrayal. Treason. By action or inaction, betrayal of trust via leaks and breaches of security, in violation of their sworn oaths, they have aided and abetted the enemies of the United States of America.

If they had merely failed to faithfully carry out their sworn duties to the best of their ability, they'd be worthy of dismissal. They haven't merely broken their oaths, either - they consciously and actively seek to thwart effective action in support of the lawful policies promulgated by the current elected administration and in direct violation of the law. They seek to prevent the executive branch from fulfilling certain of its various constitutionally-mandated tasks through unlawful means. Job one is the security of the United States and protection of its citizens. The actions of these people have placed us all in jeopardy, directly and indirectly, and their actions will continue to do so long after they've been dismissed and, I hope, dealt with as criminals.

They are traitors to the United States of America - that's us, y'know, so take it personally, already. They deserve no latitude, no quarter, no clemency, no sanctuary.

I don't think this is quite getting through the PCism. This is Waay Big JuJu. This is for all the marbles. This is the crux of the fucking biscuit. In simpler terms, it's yo ass, and mine.

SPo'D was dead right - that would be a fitting end for those who have placed themselves above the law, who aid and abet our enemies, who have betrayed us, who have committed treason*.

If the pic is too un-PC, then post a scathing reply, or seethe, or take to the streets and burn an embassy. I prefer that sort of clarity of position to this sort of censureship. I think you've created a hole in the debate. It's one of those oddities of humans that is so endearing, heh. Everyone knows it's there. Everyone knows what should be there, whether or not they, themselves, would be willing to fill it in as honestly as SPo'D did.

My take.

* trea·son - n.
1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.
Posted by .com 2006-02-12 14:27||   2006-02-12 14:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Steve, was it your position that we can advocate killing our foreign enemies but that we cannot advocate killing treasonous people who are our domestic enemies? Where do you draw the line for treason? Or was it the implication that the killing not be done within the system? Would a firing squad photo have been acceptable? Personally, I have no problem with sending a convicted CIA leaker to a very public and official firing squad.
Posted by Darrell 2006-02-12 14:45||   2006-02-12 14:45|| Front Page Top

#10 I've seen a lot of rants that should be clipped, but SPOD's, however pointed, rant should have not been clipped. His implication there is just overstating his frustration with the events at the agency. Let's not get too PC here at Rantburg.
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-02-12 15:02||   2006-02-12 15:02|| Front Page Top

#11 I don't mind being sink trapped. The 22 pistol is the weapon of choice for professional hit men. I believe that the agency this traitor worked for would be well served to employ it against former employees whom do not keep their mouths shut. We are in a war. A judge and jury isn't necessary here. Real aid and comfort is being given to our Adversaries. This waste of sink should have been found in his car on some back road with a pistol in his hand and a hole in his head as soon as this info leaked to the press. QED.
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2006-02-12 15:36||   2006-02-12 15:36|| Front Page Top

#12 What .com said-- EVERY damn word of it.

Exactly WHAT is the editorial policy here? Why was SPoD's comment "redacted", while you people allow some fucking idiot to come in here day after day after day and post his obnoxious "Bush lied, people died" bullshit over and over again??????

Is it Rantburg's position that the CIA leakers are NOT traitors???? If so, I want to hear it, up-front; then I'll be on my way. If that's NOT Rantburg's position, then why the Hell was SPoD's comment deleted?????

This PC stuff is BULLSHIT.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-02-12 15:59||   2006-02-12 15:59|| Front Page Top

#13 Took me awhile to find it, but...
Posted by .com 2006-02-12 16:03||   2006-02-12 16:03|| Front Page Top

#14 I'll second that .Com / SPOD and all US other Americans that are so in the old sence Americans were you had to actually love America to qualify. You can't claim to be American then do all you can to Hate and harm America's interest. Its way past time for our leaders to get a sack and call a spade a spade. I want to hear from the top something like this "Hell Yeah I question your partiotism when you do X Seditionist/Treasonist act".

This problem will continue to grow until we get some LEADERSHIP from the top that will demand PROSECUTION and then MAXIMUM sentence for these leakers its high Treason.

The list of treasonous criminals is long from Gov insiders to Senators to Staff. Their was a time in this nation when government officials especially in a time of war saw it more important to protect a war effort than their partisan political views.

By the way the NYT’s reporters are still today writing stories. Their reporters should be in prison the newspaper for not honoring a government request to hold info should be sanctioned and their license revoked.

Posted by C-Low 2006-02-12 18:01||   2006-02-12 18:01|| Front Page Top

#15 From the Telegraph in London....early info:
A UN inquiry has called for the immediate closure of America's Guantanamo Bay detention centre and the prosecution of officers and politicians who are accused of torturing detainees.
Looks like the tin foil hats are going to have a field day Monday
Posted by Inspector Clueso 2006-02-12 21:48||   2006-02-12 21:48|| Front Page Top

#16 The UN can sod off LOL.
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2006-02-12 23:18||   2006-02-12 23:18|| Front Page Top

#17 Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2006-02-12 02:22||   2006-02-12 02:22|| Front Page Top

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