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2006-03-23 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
UN Security Council stalled on Iran
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Posted by Tholuck Chomble7555 2006-03-23 03:16|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Since Russia and China, and probably France, are so willing to put their own interests above anything else, the US is forced to take the initiative across the board.

If Israel wants to attack, we will not stand in its way, nor will we allow others to either stand in their way or retaliate against them. Depending on circumstances, we will either let them, assist them, or let them assist us.

If we can prod Iran into making a foolish and ill-conceived attack against our interests, we may also be inclined to do that.

Ironically, we have to protect the other nuclear powers from attack by Iran likewise, as their response would most certainly be singularly nuclear, and far more than we prefer.

So they are rewarded for their duplicity with us protecting them, less they destroy much of the region.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-03-23 08:08||   2006-03-23 08:08|| Front Page Top

#2 A rare UN security council stall, eh ?
Posted by wxjames 2006-03-23 08:48||   2006-03-23 08:48|| Front Page Top

#3 So we're having to maintain the momentum.

See. The UN considers this as "momentum".
Posted by tu3031 2006-03-23 09:40||   2006-03-23 09:40|| Front Page Top

#4 See. The UN considers this as "momentum".

Objects at rest also have momentum.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-03-23 09:44|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-03-23 09:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Inertia, too.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-03-23 10:21||   2006-03-23 10:21|| Front Page Top

#6 It's the density of UNium that stands out.
Posted by Ulinter Elmock7099 2006-03-23 10:31||   2006-03-23 10:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Even the Russkies and Chicoms are being forced to accept the need for SOME resolution, but they want one that doesnt yet threaten sanctions. and they want more time. Theyre playing for time at this point.

And the French and the Germans, not just the US and UK, are getting pissed with the Russians.

Just a couple of years ago we saw a budding French-German-Russian alliance. Thats dead.

From the POV of global US strategy, thats probably bigger news than anything happening in Iran.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-03-23 10:35||   2006-03-23 10:35|| Front Page Top

#8 
We should open direct discussions with Iran. The topic should be that we warn them to move civilians away from strategic sites.

Not negotiations, but we need some cover when collateral damage happens.
Posted by Master of Obvious 2006-03-23 10:42||   2006-03-23 10:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Keep clicking your heels, LH. Someday the UN will do something other than condemn free countries.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-03-23 10:43|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-03-23 10:43|| Front Page Top

#10 The UN is beyond worthless. Now that takes a concerted effort to get that far. The M²s know this and are playing the UN like a fish.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-03-23 11:08||   2006-03-23 11:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Hello, Mullahs? Yonder beckons the Stone Age.
Posted by doc 2006-03-23 13:16||   2006-03-23 13:16|| Front Page Top

#12 I agree with LH to the extent that if we act without UN sanction, having the Germans and French on our side will be huge in terms of us being able to ride out (from a PR standpoint) the setbacks that will come when we have to act militarily.

Also, I think it will matter within Iran. I suspect that the Iranian public, which does not want to be estranged from the world due to the Mullahs' foreign policy, cares a lot more about the France and Germany than they do about Russia and China.

Of course, the Frogs may be playing the same double game they did before we went into Iraq or they may be waiting for Iran to buy their support. But I wonder if maybe we have the goods on them and they know we can embarrass them if they defect to the Iranian side. For instance, the captured Iraqi documents that are only now being posted daily on the Web may contain some inconvenient information.
Posted by JAB 2006-03-23 13:16||   2006-03-23 13:16|| Front Page Top

#13 What's their motivation to play this straight? They've already demonstrated that money is all they truly care about. Look at Shroeder. Whatever happens down the road will be on somebody else's watch - or so they hope. Secretly, they are probably colluding with the Russkies and ChiComs - encouraging them to block any meaningful action. Lavrov has already made it clear that Russia won't support ANY sanctions of ANY kind, much less action. They haven't the sense or self-restraint to reinvest in their own oil industry. Putzes.

This UN game is so flawed and pointless it amazes me. Window dressing for the inevtiable.
Posted by Snuper Thramp5041 2006-03-23 14:19||   2006-03-23 14:19|| Front Page Top

#14 China Stands With Russia - Drudge...

Big surprise. Dragging it out for their hard currency buddies, the Mullahs.
Posted by Snuper Thramp5041 2006-03-23 15:08||   2006-03-23 15:08|| Front Page Top

#15 Perhaps the Iraq files contain a bit more detail on French wrongdoing than has been publicly released. If we can blackmail Chiraq we should.
Posted by JAB 2006-03-23 17:39||   2006-03-23 17:39|| Front Page Top

#16 Ima thinking we need to up our arms deliveries to Taiwan....week by week, while China's intransigent. Hardball
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-03-23 19:29||   2006-03-23 19:29|| Front Page Top

#17 Bet 'Mooseman's got it!

Weird, yet a slugging percentage around .750.
Posted by 6 2006-03-23 20:01||   2006-03-23 20:01|| Front Page Top

#18 I like Frank's idea!
Posted by 3dc 2006-03-23 21:26||   2006-03-23 21:26|| Front Page Top

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