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2006-03-24 Europe

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Posted by lotp 2006-03-24 10:17|| || Front Page|| [11140 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Risk areas are places hurricanes might make landfall. Things in crosshairs are targets. You a target. Hope you got friends.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-24 10:51|| 2006-03-24 10:51|| Front Page Top

#2 cats out of the bag. I have nothing against Muslims. People are people and I think that Mulsims will be the ones who help us to win this war OF terror. But I do think there is the issue of whether or not we should allow immigrants who come here and refuse to acknowledge or obey our laws and intend to end ideals of religious freedom, tolerance for all individuals and who intend to use demographics and democracy to end the western belief of the separation of church and state.

Posted by 2b 2006-03-24 10:54|| 2006-03-24 10:54|| Front Page Top

#3 Even Blind Man Europe finally gets a BGO (Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious). Once again, good and great thanks to Denmark for publishing the cartoons. They were a much needed clarion call.

Posted by Zenster 2006-03-24 12:46|| 2006-03-24 12:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Zen, I hope you are right, but I fear no. Given the history most of the continent would love to keep head in sand. I don't know, but I don't really think Europe has caught on. I fear in a year or so, cartoons will be forgotten and the big bad US will still be the hegmonic source of all problems. They can't shake it, it is how they are.

Posted by bombay">bombay 2006-03-24 16:26|| 2006-03-24 16:26|| Front Page Top

#5 I understand how you feel, bombay. I really do not want to be so cynical about it, however tempting it is. The cartoons have served a truly noble purpose and I'm hoping that Europe will keep its eyes open this time and not nod back off into complacency as it usually does.

Posted by Zenster 2006-03-24 16:35|| 2006-03-24 16:35|| Front Page Top

#6 I really hope so too, I really do.

I have a unique perspective on it being technically 1/2 American and 1/2 European, with much family there still ...

I say technically, as I will admit freely that I was born US, live in US, feel US and claim first and foremost that I am US - ALWAYS. My Euro counterparts hate me for it. Oh well, lol.

However, I have also lived in Europe and shortly in Asia, and with contacts I still maintain (having until recently worked for a European company) and have the family there, that they just don't get it.

I really, really, really want to avoid the thoughts I have, but, I just can't ... it is as if I know them too well or something.

The cartoon issue was 'well, america does have a point' but the average Euro still say 'but still, they are that hegmonic evil, so even though what they are saying looks true from example, it is still the yanks and it doesn't matter, peace in our time!'

As in, better fun to hate on us and not deal with the mess than it is to really look at the problem and deal with ... wow, a common problem I have found at EVERY European entity (i.e. company / government) I have had the pleasure of working with.

Posted by bombay">bombay 2006-03-24 16:45|| 2006-03-24 16:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Thank you for the insights. I, too, am half European (my mother was born in Copenhagen, Denmark). The Danes tend to have much more sympathetic feelings for the Americans due to our role in WWII, than many other Europeans, so that odd amalgam of resentful ingratitude just didn't show up in family relations.

Woe on Europe and Muslim alike should the continent drowse off once again into its usual inattentive slumber. The "last resort" school of conflict resolution so popular in Europe more often resembles a charnel house than anything else.

Posted by Zenster 2006-03-24 17:30|| 2006-03-24 17:30|| Front Page Top

#8 Out today: Dore Gold's defense of the special relationship between the US and Israel.
http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-20.htm

Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-03-24 17:51|| 2006-03-24 17:51|| Front Page Top

#9 Zen, awesome, then you probably feel what I do ... this almost dread of knowing what is coming and trying to tell them, but they just don't care or think that we (US) are just so childish as not to listen. It is just amazing.

I hope beyone hope that your are correct in this, that they have woken up ... I just have this nagging voice / feeling from knowing them so well that it can't be true ... please I am wrong!

Posted by bombay">bombay 2006-03-24 18:07|| 2006-03-24 18:07|| Front Page Top

#10 to deny there's a special relationship is ridiculous. Rocky, sometimes, but the US will not let Israel be devoured by autocratic enemies of Jews, western values, and democracy in general. W said so just the other day...people really oughtta learn that he believes exactly what he says.

Lucky it's not up to King Frank: I'm up for a selected assassination program just for the desecration of the Church of the Nativity by Paleo scumbags. Then, the princelings....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-03-24 19:15|| 2006-03-24 19:15|| Front Page Top

#11 Jutland it where the Angles, Saxons and Jutes came from. I think this may have something to do with their affinity for America and the way we do things.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-24 19:29|| 2006-03-24 19:29|| Front Page Top

#12 1/2 Dane here, too. Bombay and Zen--does this mean I'm gonna hate London and Sydney? Would like a birdseye view before I get there(s).

Posted by ex-lib 2006-03-24 21:15|| 2006-03-24 21:15|| Front Page Top

#13 Cultural navigation tips, you two? Thanks.

Posted by ex-lib 2006-03-24 21:16|| 2006-03-24 21:16|| Front Page Top

#14 Anyone else's comments also welcome.

Posted by ex-lib 2006-03-24 21:17|| 2006-03-24 21:17|| Front Page Top

#15 My grandparents were all Europians. I think they have a kind of group penis envy. We have the 'land of plenty' and they have a serious bug up their ass over it. It's like when your best friend borrows money from you, and then he stops coming around. Weeks become months, and he is nowhere in site. Like, I owe you, so you are making me feel beneath you, subservient, unworthy.
Then there's always the possibility that they don't feel patriotic, because they consider their countries weak and insignificant.
Whatever, get over it.

Posted by wxjames 2006-03-24 23:14|| 2006-03-24 23:14|| Front Page Top

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