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Democrats plan for retaking control of Congress

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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-05-07 00:58|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 You know I kind of want them to win because after just two years they will be out of power for good. Nancy D-Facelift and her cohorts will be shooting in multiple directions without taking time to aim. They will want to investigate EVERYTHING to umpth degreee. Americans wil come to realize in short order how idiotic it was to place the government of this country in the hands of such disturbed people. And before you ask No I don't think they can hurt the country in two years, but it would be a wakeup call to the country.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-05-07 01:57|| 2006-05-07 01:57|| Front Page Top

#2 I read stuff like this and I really start to lose it. This could happen. You will even get people posting who say they hope it will happen. Wake up People

If this happens I will seriously consider heading for the hills and participating in an armed insurection. I am not going to be shit on or pushed any father by Democrats. They have already just about destroyed my state. Any hope I might have of a living wage job in my lifetime will be forgone, down the gutter, totally dashed. Do you stupid Republicans hear this. I am not going to give you a pass on this. I am still watiing for that job to trickle down to me. I think it stopped before it got to me though. I think some sub-minimum wage earning illegal aliens got those trickle down jobs. You know the ones your buddies that own the construction companies say I wont do. The ones your pals in the manufacturing plants say I wont do. I'd do it if it was offered. I has not been offered. I never heard about those jobs.

I am talking about armed insurection that will sweep you Republicans away too. The first thing these Democrat clowns will do is cut support for our troups ala Viet Nam. I will not stand by and let that happen. I will not let you swing this country anymore into the socialist camp as has been done to my state. I am not funning here I am dead serious. I am at the end of my rope. Elected Republicans get a clue.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 05:10|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 05:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Wow. A poll shows they're popular. Whoopee.

Wasn't it about the same time two years ago that there was a poll showing J F'n K ahead of Bush? And what is stopping them now (or stopped them in the past) from introducing the measures they're talking about?

Once they realize that the only "poll" that matters is the one that takes place on Election Day, they might have a chance. Until then, sounds like someone's counting chickens a bit too early.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-05-07 07:56|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-05-07 07:56|| Front Page Top

#4 By May 1994, Republicans had the outlines of a legislative agenda that would become their "Contract With America," said Richard K. Armey

So where's the donk Contract on America? Investigations on oil prices, investigations on the war, investigations on impeachment? That ain't gonna fly.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-07 08:16|| 2006-05-07 08:16|| Front Page Top

#5 Also note that this is an AP-IPSOS poll. For those who don't know, IPSOS is a French "DIY" polling company with very dubious methods. As in "Tell us the poll results you want, and we will give them to you."

I saw the raw poll results, and it was obvious that there were two "memes": first, that Conservatives were deserting Bush; which unusually for a poll quoted from people who said they were "Conservative republicans", but are now embracing the entire left-wing agenda. Uh-huh.

Every tenth word in the poll was "Conservatives".

The second was an odd one. Remember how it is usually said that in mid-term elections "the party in power loses seats"? Well, in the IPSOS version, this has been changed to "the party with the most energized voting base wins most in mid-term elections."

I suspect there is some reason for them wanting to change this meme, and will be watching it in future. Though the bottom line is that this is a desperate effort to shore up democratic enthusiasm, which has been in an extended and moribund depression for years now.

It is a truism that all politics is local. For this reason, it doesn't matter if the public is opposed to one party or the other being in power--they still vote for *their* candidate, because they know and like him. He will lose only when he becomes arrogant enough to stay in Washington instead of going home to campaign.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-07 08:26|| 2006-05-07 08:26|| Front Page Top

#6 It's sort of like discussing public schooling. Everybody agrees public schools suck. But our school is great!

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-07 08:29|| 2006-05-07 08:29|| Front Page Top

#7 I an not buying it Anonymoose. The Republicans are falling all over themselves to see how badly they can lose this election. I hear lots of pep talk and little action to forclose such a outcome.

The issues are imigratiion, energy indepencence and jobs. The Republican's suck on these issues. Bush sucks on these issues. The Democrats may be full of hot air but the Republicans have lost the trust of the voters. All that is required for the Dems to win big is for people who will not vote for a Democrat to stay home in anger.

I tell you what If I don't have a living wage job come election day Ill vote Libertarian and that might let a Democrat win. The win will replace William Thomas of California. His replacemnet looks like a weak bought and paid for "Republican." The Dems can win that seat.

The Democrats win I am grabing a bag of rice and freholes skedaddling for the hills.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 08:37|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 08:37|| Front Page Top

#8 30 Republican seats and five Democratic districts are vulnerable.

And Patrick Kennedy just shot himself in the balls over this "I consumed NO alcohol" lie.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-05-07 10:29|| 2006-05-07 10:29|| Front Page Top

#9 The people who elect Patrick Kennedy are true believers it's not going to matter. Unless he is in jail he will be relected.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 10:42|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 10:42|| Front Page Top

#10 If Ted Kennedy gets elected to the Senate six times, Patrick Kennedy's a shoo-in to retain his RI seat. The only thing 'Patches' loses out on is the shot at Chafee's Senate seat this fall.

Posted by Raj 2006-05-07 11:09|| 2006-05-07 11:09|| Front Page Top

#11 Can anyone point me to any comprehensive, hard-headed, clear-eyed analysis of what effect a Democratic victory this Fall will likely have on the War? Other than fuck it up beyond all recognition, of course...

I keep trying to get my mind around the subject, but every time I do I get so upset I can't think straight.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-05-07 12:01|| 2006-05-07 12:01|| Front Page Top

#12 SPOD:
Maybe if you spend a little less time obsessing on the internet. Rantburg isn't a job website or even a training site. Think about how much time you waste here writing your long rants and quit expecting the government to hand you a job on a silver platter.
Why would you vote Libertarian? They actually expect you to take care of yourself even more so. You better vote Democrat. They say the want to be your nanny.
A cheap job is easy to find, a good job takes a lot of effort. But they are there.
And whining isn't a character trait most employers are looking for.

Posted by Hupoter Slereth4505 2006-05-07 12:03|| 2006-05-07 12:03|| Front Page Top

#13 SPoD - I am still watiing for that job to trickle down to me.

Waiting for the winds of change
To sweep the clouds away
Waiting for the rainbow's end
To cast its gold your way
Countless ways
You pass the days

Waiting for someone to call
And turn your world around
Looking for an answer
To the question you have found
Looking for
An open door

You don't get something for nothing
You can't have freedom for free
You won't get wise
With the sleep still in your eyes
No matter what your dreams might be
Rush - Something for Nothing

Posted by Neal Peart 2006-05-07 12:20|| 2006-05-07 12:20|| Front Page Top

#14 Fuck off 4505.

Posted by 6 2006-05-07 12:43|| 2006-05-07 12:43|| Front Page Top

#15 Hupoter Slereth4505 go soak your head. I want the goverment to get the hell out of the way. The reason there are no jobs is because the government is an impediment to their creation. You can't get anymore Libertarian than that. But since you are not really an internet troll you just play one on TV don't know that.

By the way any training I have ever had has been paid for out of my own pocket at my own expense.
The government and no one else owe me a damn thing except to not get in my way. So Sod off Swampy nice try.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 12:51|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 12:51|| Front Page Top

#16 The people who elect Patrick Kennedy are true believers it's not going to matter. Unless he is in jail he will be relected.

Indeed.™ This is the same state that re-elected a man Mayor of Providence (Buddy Cianci) after he did his jail time for having his State Police detail all-but-torture a man for sleeping with his wife.

Posted by xbalanke 2006-05-07 12:54|| 2006-05-07 12:54|| Front Page Top

#17 Awright people, calm down. AoS.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-05-07 13:05|| 2006-05-07 13:05|| Front Page Top

#18 watch the sampling in the polls - where W's losing, Donks are routinely oversampled. As noted above, you can make a poll walk and talk and say anything you want - see "Zogby"

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-05-07 13:14|| 2006-05-07 13:14|| Front Page Top

#19 Typical overblowing of the Democrats. They will gain a few seats at the end of this and cut down the Republican majority a little. Enough to make the Republicans nervous and actually listen a little bit to what their voters are telling them. Two more years of the same last two years. '08 will be interesting. We will see how well the Republicans listened.

Posted by DathVader 2006-05-07 13:28|| 2006-05-07 13:28|| Front Page Top

#20 The problem is they Republicans don't apper to be listening at all.

More pork than you can shake a stick at piled on by Republicans to piss off their natural base. No energy policy yet really, we are still held hostage to media lies and hype and Middle Eastern suppliers who hate our guts. Lots of talk about pie in the sky technoligies and boondoggles that make little sense even as a stop gap, No concrete action like getting nuclear plants permitted and under construction on an expidited basis. Enviromental wackos and Democrat posturing and demagoguery blocking all attempts at dealing with the real energy issues facing the nation. Government red tape and regulations still denying US citizens the possibility of good paying blue collar jobs while service and technology jobs are outsourced over seas on a continuing basis. Abject failure to carry out the obligation to provide for secure borders. Letting the Democrats demagoguery on the issue of illegal imigration to win the day.

IMNSHO yea that is really a winning formula. I don't think so.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 13:50|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 13:50|| Front Page Top

#21 Michael Barone has been following this "shift" closely, and so far it appears there has been a 1% shift in the popular vote in favor of the Dems. (This is in special elections since 2004, as opposed to polls).

I expect 2006 to be a big nothing as far as shifts in power are concerned.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al">Frozen Al 2006-05-07 13:58|| 2006-05-07 13:58|| Front Page Top

#22 I share SPoD's frustration at how impotent the Republicans have been in Congress. My suspicion is that the pork flows from that, i.e. the Rep. leadership hasn't gotten the party in line and so Bush doesn't veto any spending, in effect buying off the Dems. to keep the war effort more or less funded and on track.

I will say that the blue collar job thing seems to be a function of industry and region, at least to some degree. My brother's in the construction trades in the northeast. Had to switch from leading a team that did concrete foundations for big buildings to becoming an ironworker, but he has more work than he really wants, at union wages.

I don't want to know if he had to grease any palms to get into the union in that region, or if the union buys its way into jobs. I do know that there are construction sites in NY / PA / NJ area that AREN'T union, because I've passed a few of them and seen the union picket lines.

Posted by lotp 2006-05-07 14:09|| 2006-05-07 14:09|| Front Page Top

#23 What really pisses me off about this aticle is the Donks admit once they get in congress their real motive is to tie congress down with investigation after investigation and not get anything done but to just go after Bush. SPOD's frustration I share, not as wildly mind you, but if the Dems get into power all they will do is flail in an anti Bush camapign, in which he will go on a veto spree. This will do nothing for our country except drive our friends away, leave our soldier out to dry, and further bankrupt our nation.

What they need if they want to be in power is a real plan to build America and close the gap between left and right.

Posted by 49 Pan 2006-05-07 14:50|| 2006-05-07 14:50|| Front Page Top

#24 One thing that's bugging me is that it takes something like 10% of the Republicans to defect on energy issues and side with the Democrats and institute their energy independence platform: don't drill in the United States, and buy from the Salafists instead.

Then as a result oil prices and gas prices go up, people blame "The Republicans," and we get the Democrats in to pursue what changes in energy policy? None whatsoever.

I'd expect the "you know how dumb someone with 100 IQ points is, well half the public's dumber than that" to go along with it, but I didn't think Sock Puppet o' Doom would fall for it too.

Posted by Phil 2006-05-07 14:57|| 2006-05-07 14:57|| Front Page Top

#25 What they need if they want to be in power is a real plan to build America and close the gap between left and right.

Except they have no desire to do either of those things. Their core believes America is the root of all evil in the world -- we were the inventors of slavery, the only people who abused the natives, the instigators of every war since 1800, and -- worst of all -- the US has prevented Workers Paradises all over the world from flourishing in peace and harmony.

They don't want to build up the US, they want to tear it down.

As for closing the gap between left and right -- they think every last one of us is a demon, intent on enslaving everyone who doesn't look like us, on burning every book except the King James Bible, and throwing anyone who has sex in any but the missionary position into prison. They have no more desire to close the gap than we would to hug a leper.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-05-07 15:01|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-05-07 15:01|| Front Page Top

#26 RC, you defined Pelosi well. The key leaders of the Dems only see the hate for the repubs, I agree, and they would rather eat glass than sit down with the repubs. We as a nation do need at least two partied for democracy to work. Might be time for a third party to move forward into the plan and watch the Dems wither and fail.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-07 15:13|| 2006-05-07 15:13|| Front Page Top

#27 Actually, RC, I'd rather hug a leper than have the Demon-cRATS get back in power.

Particularly with what they have publicly admitted - gleefully, I might add - they intend to do with that power.

Which is, bottom line, to fuck over America for their own personal pleasure and gain.

It's even more frustrating to those of us old enough to remember when (most) Democrats didn't act like this, and actually had a platform with America's best interests in mind. (Or had a platform, period.)

As far as I'm concerned, the whole lot of them today can FOAD. >:-(

Posted by Barbara Skolaut"> Barbara Skolaut 2006-05-07 15:18|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-05-07 15:18|| Front Page Top

#28 The enregy policy problem is not new. It's left over fron Georges first term in case no one noticed. It's wimping out on this stuff that has registered Republicans like me pissed off.

30+ years and we still are at the mercy of The Saudi and Iranian regimes. It's time to put our energy security in a position of priority.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 15:21|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 15:21|| Front Page Top

#29 Makes me wonder what the hell its going to take to get through to the mopron Republican leadership.

If they'd bother, we've been telling them the same thing every time they send us a mailing;

Act like a majority party - stop wussing out and caving in on drilling, judges, consdut of the war, etc.

All they need to do is show they are aserious about 5 things. Just these 5.

1. Win the War (on Terror, and in Iraq).
2. Secure the Border.
3. Cut the pork, cut government size and spending. (This means earmark reform and chopping lobbying).
4. Get solid conservative non-activist judges approved.
5. Get us energy independant: drill the continental shelves and ANWR, promote Nuc power, bolster R&D into hydrogen, wind and solar.

They've failed on damn near everything but the first - and if they get booted, they will have failed on it as well.

Trent Lott ought to be strung up from a lamppost - its him and the old country-club big-government (Chaffee and other RINOs included) types that have killed the Republican party. Lott is a perfect picture of whats wrogn with the Republican Party and why its about to lose the house and the seante - WAKE THE FUCK UP you idiots!

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-07 18:11|| 2006-05-07 18:11|| Front Page Top

#30 SPoD - As a long-time conservative, I feel your pain. I live in SC where we have one of those arrogant, non-responsive Republican(?) senators (Graham). I believe there will be a blood bath for the Republicans in November and again in 2008. The polls don't mean much, because folks like me will not answer them. The poll in Nov will tell the story.

Other than the WOT, there is little material difference between the parties. Unfortunately, the Dims and the left have weakened the nation to the point that being right on the war will end up being a distinction without a difference.

Posted by SR-71">SR-71 2006-05-07 18:14|| 2006-05-07 18:14|| Front Page Top

#31 And I dont mean start with slogans now - I mean pass laws to make the changes NOW.

Start building the fence NOW.
Kill Earmarks NOW.
Put in Budget controls for non-defense spending NOW.
Ramrod the judges through NOW.
Pass laws allowing for drilling the outer contientnal shelf and ANWR NOW.

Don't firggen sit and talk about it liek youve been doing for the past year.

Frist has been fiddling while the senate BURNS. Whne wil eh show some balls and bring McCain to heel, crack down on Spector's obstructianism in the justice comitte, and kill pork from Stevens and Lott etc? First has been a disaaster as leader of the senate Republicans.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-07 18:16|| 2006-05-07 18:16|| Front Page Top

#32 Spook, if they don't get a handle on your #2, in another 5-10 years the rest won't matter.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-07 18:20|| 2006-05-07 18:20|| Front Page Top

#33 Have a little faith in Boehner, people. He's no dummy and can read accurate polls as well as anyone. What needs to happen is the Porkbuster campaign go bigtime (thanks Sen Coburn, Instapundit), W veto the latest spending bill, and some party discipline where mavericks (yes, you, Specter, McCain and Hagel, ya publicity seeking assholes) suffer loss of party support and lose their committee posts. Crack the fucking whip and make them unite (or at least STFU)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-05-07 19:24|| 2006-05-07 19:24|| Front Page Top

#34 Personally, I'm about ready to revolt, and shoot members of both parties - in droves.

Things looked pretty nasty in 1786-87, too. Then there was a little altercation known as Shay's Rebellion. That was over high taxes and low farm prices, among other things, but the real underlying reason was that "elected officials" were tone-deaf to the local populace. Weren't a lot of people hurt, but it got the attention of the government in Washington, and things changed.

Right now, the folks in Washington don't care what the electorate does, as long as it returns them to power every two to six years. It's time to quit playing their game. There needs to be a thorough house-cleaning, not only of people who have been in elected office too long, but of their "assistants" and "aids", too.

If the Democrats win the House this year, there will be nothing done during the next two years that will help the United States. We need to make the Bush tax cuts permanent - the Democrats will definitely kill them. We need to continue to wage aggressive war against islamonazi fruitcakes - the Democrats will attempt to appease them - again. The Democrats currently demand an amnesty for all illegal aliens, even though 70% or more of the people of this country oppose any form of amnesty. The Democrats want to increase the minimum wage law, which is the most stupid law ever enacted by the government of the United States, and is patently economically insane and unconstitutional. The Democrats will also do everything they can to destroy the Bush Administration, including a few things they are already doing that are patently illegal. They WON'T follow through on the leaking of classified information, since it's in their best interest for those "leaks" to continue.

If the Democrats do win, and I pray to God to prevent it, I will have no choice but to start shooting them. We should have started 10 years ago.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-05-07 20:05|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 20:05|| Front Page Top

#35 People say I need counciling for talkng like that Old Patriot.

I am with you 99.9% of the way. My only difference is I demand the government get out of the way of full employment. I am for a living wage work force. But the market must determine a living wage not the government. A living wage job for every one that wants one. The government needs to get the hell out of the way of such al labor market.

Put a bounty on Democrat lawyers to boot.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 20:22|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 20:22|| Front Page Top

#36 I wrote the following on Monday night, November 1, 2004-- on the eve of the Presidential election. Seems to me what I said about a possible Kerry victory serve just as well to predict what will happen if the Democrats re-take either the House or the Senate this Fall.

What if Kerry Wins?

1. For those Americans who voted for John Kerry out of ignorance, or party loyalty, or habit, the first hint that they may have just done something really, REALLY stupid will be a wave of ululating that spreads across the Islamic world starting shortly after midnight EST.

2. The terrorist insurgency in Iraq will intensify dramatically, as the Islamists redouble their efforts to make Iraq into Mogadishu writ large: Osama bin Laden's counsel-- that if you bleed the Americans enough they will eventually give up and go home-- will be tentatively vindicated by a Bush defeat, and all that will be left will be to seal the deal with a Kerry withdrawal in the face of massive terrorist attacks in Iraq. If Kerry wins, Iraq will get much, MUCH worse, and Islamists elsewhere around the world will be likewise emboldened.

3. Iran and Israel-- the former emboldened by Bush's defeat and America's defeatism, and the latter disgusted and appalled by it-- will duke it out sometime soon. Israel or Iran, or maybe both, will be reduced to radioactive slag.

4. There will be a massive exodus from the U.S. armed forces, as recruitment and re-enlistment rates plummet. Short of electing "Hanoi Jane" Fonda as president, no worse insult to our troops than John Kerry as their commander-in-chief would be possible. Kerry will either have to drastically scale back U.S. troop deployments abroad or ask Congress to re-instate the draft.

5. As for Kerry's "Stronger at Home, Respected in the World" slogan, prepare to endure unprecedented contempt and arrogance from France, Germany and the anklebiters at the U.N. as they move to take advantage of a weak U.S. president who neurotically craves European approval and will do almost anything to get it.

6. The budding democracies in Afghanistan and Iraq will collapse. Whether or not Kerry actually intends to abandon our democratization efforts doesn't really matter: he's said he intends to bring the troops home quickly, and our new democratic allies will act in the expectation that he will do just that: both countries will shortly be back in the hands of dictators, and the best we can hope is that they will not be excessively hostile towards us.

7. America's credibility will be completely, utterly DEAD. Never again-- and I mean NEVER-- will the committment of the American people to the defense of freedom be trusted, anywhere in the world, under any circumstances. We will be seen from this time forth, forevermore, as a profoundly silly, fickle, infantile, gullible, lazy, naive and stupid people with short attention spans and a tendency toward changing our minds and abandoning our committments completely every four years.

8. The very idea of democracy and freedom as the cure for what ails the Arab/Islamic world will be discredited by a Kerry victory, and our own lack of resolve will be held up as proof of democracy's inferiority.

9. China will move quickly to sate its long-held appetite for the island nation of Taiwan, calculating that Kerry will have no stomach-- or political support amongst his constituency-- for doing anything whatsoever to defend it.

10. North Korea will do... something horrible and insane-- and get away with it. Exactly what it will be is anybody's guess, but one thing's for certain: we won't like it, one damn bit. And Kerry will not lift a finger to stop it.

11. Future U.S. presidents will draw one overriding, indelible lesson from the 2004 Election: the "Greatest Generation" is long-gone, and the American people no longer have the stamina or the courage or the attention span for long, difficult struggles, nor the vision for noble deeds.

Any future terrorist attacks-- even attacks using WMD-- will have to be dealt with rapidly and decisively, within the span of a few months at most; beyond that time frame, the American people will lose courage; their attention will drift; they will become impatient; and the venture will become a fatal political liability as did Operation Iraqi Freedom.

There will be no more "nation-building". There will be no more exercises in bringing freedom and democracy to oppressed peoples in an effort to remove the root causes that breed Islamic extremism.

There will be no more wars of liberation. There will be no wars of conquest and subjugation, either, unless some U.S. president decides it's the only way to secure a supply of oil. Nor will there be any punitive wars, as that is just not in our blood. All that will be left will be a simple, stark choice: surrender to Islam, or exterminate it.

The American people may come to realize, with horror, that their vote for John F. Kerry on November 2, 2004 was a vote to condemn one-fifth of the world's population to death in a thermonuclear holocaust.

Tomorrow, if we elect John F. Kerry, we will have foreclosed all other options.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-05-07 20:30|| 2006-05-07 20:30|| Front Page Top

#37 gentlemen... ixnay on the ootingsh....

The minority party has demonstrated that there are other procedural and oppositional ways to stop the Majority from imposing its' will, God forbid the sides ever change. We need to be as ruthless and cunning and shameless as a Chuck Schumer 3 rows back from a TV camera.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-05-07 20:30|| 2006-05-07 20:30|| Front Page Top

#38 A revolution maybe a long time in coming. I often wonder what our founding fathers (the real greatest generation imho) would think of today's politicos.

Yeah, I know, they'd prolly think they're a bunch of spineless two-faced pussies to.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-07 20:38|| 2006-05-07 20:38|| Front Page Top

#39 Polls don't mean anything.
I hang up on about 3 polling firms a week.
All they tell you is how lazy folk with nothing better to do with their time then answer loaded questions from pollesters mis-answer the questions.

Posted by 3dc 2006-05-07 20:42|| 2006-05-07 20:42|| Front Page Top

#40 Sorry,
I knew Rantburg was right-leaning, as I am, but I didn't know it was a site promoting armed overthrow of the US if your candidate doesn't win. Given a choice between the wacked-out lefties who threatened to go to Canada and wacked-out righties who threaten armed overthrow this troll prefers the lefties. At least those who leave can come back during the next election and still have the USA here.

Posted by Hupoter Slereth4505 2006-05-07 20:50|| 2006-05-07 20:50|| Front Page Top

#41 I am for taking the counrty back from the Corporocracy Sir. Anyway I'll try it again with the ballot box. A bullet box must serve if the ballot box is indadaquate.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 20:54|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 20:54|| Front Page Top

#42 HS4505, people are venting here. There is no one here who seriously promotes overthrowing the government, and no one here is going to go out shooting opposition candidates.

Let me remind everyone of the Rantburg policy: one can vent, one can complain, one can grumble. Outright advocacy of murder of a U.S. citizen, however loathsome a person, will be redacted immediately. Fred and the mods do not need or want the kind of legal scrutiny that comes with that sort of thing, so we won't permit it.

We're not going to shoot Dhimmicrats nor are we going to overthrow our government if the Dhimmis win. We'll instead buckle down, bide our two years, get our ducks in a row and win some elections in 2008. That's how it's done.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-05-07 21:03|| 2006-05-07 21:03|| Front Page Top

#43 Can we pants them? On national TV?

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 21:07|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 21:07|| Front Page Top

#44 Corporocracy? Some Libertarian.
A bullet box must serve if the ballot box is indadaquate.
'Inadequate' meaning that your choice didn't win.
Nice.
I have 16 years active duty and I say go for it. You'll soon be wishing to be back in your mommy's basement.
I can tell I don't belong here. So long.

Posted by Hupoter Slereth4505 2006-05-07 21:07|| 2006-05-07 21:07|| Front Page Top

#45 T'is why the Dems needs American Hiroshimas to oocur - IMO, the ZOGBY and RASMUSSEN, etal. polling datas do not show any significant Dem gains other than Dubya appearing to tempor lose points. Dubya's well-reported loss in POTUS performance approval points simul does not show the American voter wants a Democrat in the WH. MSM > DUBYA'S POINTS DOWN, BUT LARGE TO DOMINANT POLL MAJORITES SHOW CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE GOP = DUBYA AGENDUMS, NOT THE DEMOCRATS. America wants the WOT, directly or indir, politically or militarily, fought or resolved "over there". not here in America. Why do you think PELOSI is now claming the Dems can't or won't impeach Dubya - THE GOP, DUBYA, DEMOCAPITALISM, FEDERALISM, AND GOP-LED AMERICA = CLINTONIAN AMERIKA, AND ONLY THESE, MUST GET THE DE FACTO BLAME FOR ANY AND ALL PRE-OWG, PRE-AMER SOCIALISM NEW TERROR ATTACKS, NATIONAL PROBLEMS, OR EMPIRE, NOT THE DEMS. THE DEMS, OWG, LEFTISM-SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM, ANTI-SOVEREIGNTY, AND TOTALITARIANISM IS THE SOLUTION TO AMERICA'S NATIONAL AND GLOBAL WOES AND IMPERIALISM, NOT AND NEVER THE CAUSE.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-05-07 22:39|| 2006-05-07 22:39|| Front Page Top

#46 I knew Rantburg was right-leaning, as I am, but I didn't know it was a site promoting armed overthrow of the US...
I am not suggesting the armed overthrowing of the United States, just the armed destruction of a political party that is doing it's level best to destroy the Constitution. I'm a military retiree. I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. I've spent most of my life doing just that. The Democratic Party is home to traitors and scumbags like John Kerry, who, instead of being elected a US Senator, should have hung by the neck until DOORKNOB DEAD. I believe in using violence to purge those that don't want to continue the government of the United States according to the Constitution, and who wish to subjugate the people of the United States to others, such as the United Nations. I wish to fight against those that wish to grant another 20 million illegal aliens amnesty, so they can buy their votes. I wish to destroy a political party that will do anything to gain power, including some of the most shameless, ACKNOWLEDGED voter fraud ever to go unpunished.

We have an enemy in our midst, and it's the Democratic Party led by Howard Dean, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Hillary Clinton. We need to purge these and dozens of others who only see the US as the problem, and want to do their level best to make us another France. Killing them is actually too good for them, but it at least keeps someone like Ted Kennedy or Charles Schumer from ever getting elected again.

It's impossible to fumigate Washington. Move the capital to Manhattan

Kansas.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-05-07 22:46|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 22:46|| Front Page Top

#47 > It's impossible to fumigate Washington. Move the capital to Manhattan ...

> Kansas.

Go Wildcats! ;-)

Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2006-05-07 22:55|| 2006-05-07 22:55|| Front Page Top

#48 Hupoter Slereth4505 quite frankly how many years you have "in" and a cup of coffee make you equal to me. Just another citizen free to say your piece. I can say my piece as well.

I'll hang with Old Patriot and be in good company if it ever comes to that. I won't back down and I sure will not be in fear. The worse they can do is kill me for my convictions.

One should not be of the opinion that they or anyone else besides the Owner, editor and modarators of this fine site are going to run you me or anyone else off without cause. So far I don't believe I have given them cause. If I do they will be well with in their rights.

Take care now.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-07 23:06|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-07 23:06|| Front Page Top

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