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2006-10-07 Home Front: Politix
Republicans cry foul over October Surprise™
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Posted by Fred 2006-10-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Welcome to the blowback of trying to fry Clinton over his sexlife. Clinton should have been nailed (as it were), solely for his lies on the stand and nothing else. Rarely does moralizing come without a downside and this is it.

Foley was particularly reprehensible in that all during the midst of his homosexual shenanigans, he nonetheless voted for the Defense of Marriage act. Like J. Edgar Hoover before him, this sort of closet case who is outwardly antagonistic to homosexuals represents the absolute worst in hypocrasy.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-07 01:17||   2006-10-07 01:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Juz think, if Foley was a Democrat, he'd probably be running for president in '08
Posted by Captain America 2006-10-07 01:30||   2006-10-07 01:30|| Front Page Top

#3 whoa, whoa, whoa there Zenster. Some of us girls might just have a little disagreement over that. It's not personal business when "willingness to give blow jobs" is a check acceptable box on the gov't applications.

There was a girl somewhere who didn't get Monica's job because Monica had, shall we say, a leg up on her.

Besides, its JMHO, but I think the biggest blow-back from this Foley scandal is going to be the outright hypocrisy exhibited by the Dems. Repubs demand their pervs resign once they get outed. The Dems reelect them. The canard that Foley is worse because he was a hypocrite is a tough sell to people who are more interested in getting the pervs to stop than they are in playing politics.
Posted by anon 2006-10-07 02:06||   2006-10-07 02:06|| Front Page Top

#4 The canard that Foley is worse because he was a hypocrite is a tough sell to people who are more interested in getting the pervs to stop than they are in playing politics.

Last I checked, homosexuality still isn't a crime here in America. Until it is, this is about "playing politics". Foley is political roadkill even without any democrats intervening. Unless you are specifically referring to Foley's pursuit of minors, "Getting the pervs to stop" comes across as more of a religious than legal agenda that won't necessarily play particulary well in a country dedicated to personal liberty and freedom.

I'll be so bold as to remind you that true conservatism stands for minimal government intrusion upon the private lives of law abiding citizens. Just because you deem a given portion of the population to be living outside your religious commandments does not alter one whit their legal protections or standing.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-07 03:14||   2006-10-07 03:14|| Front Page Top

#5 That's right - all the newspapers were calling for Tip O'Neill's resignation, "increasing pressure to resign" when Gerry Studds actually had sex with a page, right? Right?
Posted by Raj 2006-10-07 09:12||   2006-10-07 09:12|| Front Page Top

#6 Anon - I'm sure Monica had other skills that led her to such an important frequent audience with the Leader of the Fre World™. I mean she always wanted to discuss "world geopolitical politics 'n stuff" with the big He. Vernon Jordan was her personal placement agency contact. And hell, Bill Richardson got her a job at the UN, so you know she's qualified...'n stuff
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-07 09:41||   2006-10-07 09:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Dems bugger pages = they are to be left alone and any criticism is homophobic.

Reps TALK DIRTY to pages = off with the Speaker's head.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-10-07 10:58||   2006-10-07 10:58|| Front Page Top

#8 Zenster - it is an abuse of power when one in a position of authority accepts or solicits sexual favors from those working for him - male or female. It creates a hostile work environment where promotions and job performance are suspect to being based on sexual favors. We don't tolerate it in the military and we shouldn't tolerate it in any government service where we foot the bill.

And as for him being a perv - you're right, that's just my opinion. I think he's a perv.
Posted by anon 2006-10-07 11:05||   2006-10-07 11:05|| Front Page Top

#9 As to the abuse of power, I agree with you completely. Charges related to that should have been added to the list against Clinton. The casting couch must be dismantled for once and all. It is a disgusting relic of male dominated business.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-07 11:47||   2006-10-07 11:47|| Front Page Top

#10 'll be so bold as to remind you that true conservatism stands for minimal government intrusion upon the private lives of law abiding citizens. Just because you deem a given portion of the population to be living outside your religious commandments does not alter one whit their legal protections or standing.

I know. I know, I know... you think we're not true conservatives until we buckle up and bust our asses to remake society so that two men can get married to each other.

I find that whole concept to be self-contradictory, myself.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-10-07 12:48||   2006-10-07 12:48|| Front Page Top

#11 I can't help but notice during all of this bruhaha that Tom DeLay hasn't been mentioned ONCE. How long has Dennis Hastert been Republican Speaker? What happened during DeLay's tenure? Who mentioned or didn't mention anything to anybody prior to now? This whole thing is rotten to the core, and I'd certainly like to know just who is involved at what level, and with what prior knowledge. The whole mess stinks. It stinks VERY much.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-10-07 20:08|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-10-07 20:08|| Front Page Top

#12 I know. I know, I know... you think we're not true conservatives until we buckle up and bust our asses to remake society so that two men can get married to each other.

Ummm ... no. I just think that selective enforcement or unequal application of the law is a vile concept. If you think homosexuality is so blasphemous, get it outlawed. See how far you get. Don't you much prefer that the government has zero say about what goes on between two consenting adults behind closed doors? Let the government start regulating our sex lives and say heelllllooo to Mr. Slippery Slope.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-07 21:23||   2006-10-07 21:23|| Front Page Top

#13 On Gerry Stubbs, Barney Frank, and Demoncrap double-standards, read THIS
Posted by Lancasters Over Dresden 2006-10-07 21:36|| http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com/HomePage.asp]">[http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com/HomePage.asp]  2006-10-07 21:36|| Front Page Top

#14 I hope all of you understand that I'm not defending the democrats here. I just want the government to butt the fuck (as it were) out of our private lives.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-07 23:56||   2006-10-07 23:56|| Front Page Top

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