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2006-11-21 Home Front: WoT
VDH : Will the West Stumble?
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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-21 10:59|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Amen.
Posted by RWV 2006-11-21 11:11||   2006-11-21 11:11|| Front Page Top

#2 We have stumbled. If you list what we have, what we've gained and what we've lost since 9/11/01, vs. what Islam has gained and lost since 9/11/01, we have not gained. In that time, many on our side have grown weary of the fight. In that time, some countries have fallen into turmoil and are slipping into chaos and eventually, into the enemy's camp. These include African, Asian, and European countries. There are more mosques in the US today. There are Islamic madrassas in the US today. There are newly converted muslims in the US today. There is NO debate on whether Islam is a death cult masked as a religion, which it is. Islam is also the enemy, so the enemy has not been defined by our illustrious leaders. We have failed to reverse this trend, and we cannot start the winning unless and until we reverse these trends.

I expect, in fact demand that the next president run on a platform of anti-Islam. I fully expect him or her to identify Islam as the murderer of millions of innocent people worldwide and promise that if elected he will work to ban the practice of Islam within our borders.

You don't expect China to allow Islam to undermine their control of the Chinese people, do you ? Japan ? Israel ? Australia ? Vietnam ? India is knee deep in the struggle now, but we can still win. We can still save Europe.
But, we must wake up.
Posted by wxjames 2006-11-21 14:38||   2006-11-21 14:38|| Front Page Top

#3 I think it is too little, too late for western Europe. As for the US, we are rapidly sliding into un-win able territory if we keep showing loss of nerve. Our allies will not stay with us and our enemies will be permanently emboldened.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2006-11-21 15:08||   2006-11-21 15:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Our allies will not stay with us and our enemies will be permanently emboldened.


Not to mention embedded in the fabric of our society!

Posted by Mick Dundee 2006-11-21 17:46||   2006-11-21 17:46|| Front Page Top

#5 IMO I do NOT believe that Americans have grown "weary of the fight" - the 2006 Dem victory was A VOTE FOR = ABOUT VICTORY, NOT RETREAT/DEFEAT, although it should be of no surprise that the OWG-happy Dems/DemoLeft wants to argue the latter. Iff one believes as GLENN BECK that the true agenda/target was always RADICAL IRAN, then the GOP "LOST" BECUZ DUBYA-GOP FAILED = TOOK TOO LONG TO EMPOWER DEMOCRACY-CENTRIC "REGIME CHANGE" IN IRAN. The prob becomes NOT US-Allied milfors fighting-kiling Radical Islamist terrorists + Radical jihadists in the ME, BUT HOW LONG AMER WARRIORS WILL HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT UNTIL "REGIME CHANGE" DE FACTO TAKES PLACE. This is the true "CHANGE OF DIRECTION" that MAINSTREAM AMERICA, NOTSOMUCH PC POLITICIANS-ACTIVS, WANT. Dubya-GOP lost becuz America saw little to no evidence of regime change taking place inside IRAN, andor BY EXTENS NORTH KOREA. BETTER FOR US MILFORS TO COME HOME THAN FOR US WAFFLECRATS TO TAKE NO ACTION OF ANY SORT AGZ IRAN-NORTH KOREA. As like myself, as said long ago many US milfors have no probs killing Radical Islamist or any other Terrorist/Enemy around the world iff it means NO MORE 9-11's FOR A LONG LONG WHILE, OR EVEN FOREVER. That being said, iff the sponsor of 9-11 = anti-US Terror is RADICAL IRAN + ROGUE ALLIES, THEN US MILFORS SHOULD EXPECT THEIR GOVT=LDRS TO DO SOMETHING TO EITHER DE FACTO EMPOWER DE FACTO REGIME CHANGE OR TO DE FACTO DESTROY IRAN, ETC. PROPERLY + COMPLETELY WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE, i.e. to SOLVE THE PRIMARY PROBLEM(S). And iff any world nations want to interfere agz America, we'll destroy them along with Iran & Co. just for kicks, just becuz we can, and espec just becuz their nation-Govt is stupid enuff to be an ally(s) of the enemy(s) that would harm/ destroy me + mine. America "lost" in SOUTH VIETNAM, INPART, becuz America wasn't willing to take the extra, ALBEIT $$$ COSTLY steps, necessary to protect South Vietnam without invading = having to attack/
invade North Vietnam.

* HENRY FONDA in FORT APACHE > "Captain York, wHEN YOU COMMAND THIS REGIMENT, COMMAND IT!".
IFF WASHINGTON = AMERICA TRULY SINCERELY GENUINELY WANTS A SECURE IRAQ, THEN SECURE IT!
DON'Y SAY WANNA SECURE IRAQ, ETC, BUT THEN DON'T SECURE IT, AND WHEN SHIT HITS THE FAN ASK SOMEBODY ELSE, ANYONE ELSE, FOR ANSWERS-SOLUTIONS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADMIT ANY MISTAKE WAS MADE. TRULY WANNA SECURE THEN SECURE,

2006 > ABOUT IRAN = WANNA DESTABILIZE IRAN FOR DEMOCRACY, THEN DESTABILIZE. WANNA REGIME CHANGE, THEN REGIME CHANGE. Americans = Amer voters, or many of them, already know that iff America doesn't rule the world + future OWG, America will be destroyed. WOT > WAR FOR THE WORLD = AMERICA WINS, OR ITS ENEMIES DO. WOT > ITS YOU vs THEM > YOU/WE DO, OR YOU/WE DIE.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-11-21 21:41||   2006-11-21 21:41|| Front Page Top

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