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2006-11-30 Home Front: Culture Wars
A Second American Civil War?
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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-30 13:12|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I think an American civil war will boil down to these basic issues:

1) A visage of how America is: free enterprise, respect for religious practces, reduced and small government and a strong defense, and personal freedom and responsibility

2) Versus a visage of how America should be: hyper-regulation of all human activities, financial, personal and religious concomitant with the taxes it would require.

A civil war will be sparked when visage A decides that those who press for visage B have gone too far. Visage A will win because all of the ideas promulgated by the left are based in whole or in part on lies and contradictions, and deception is not a stable basis for a free and open society.
Posted by badanov 2006-11-30 13:58|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2006-11-30 13:58|| Front Page Top

#2 And Visage A will also win because they've got all the guns...
Posted by tu3031 2006-11-30 14:01||   2006-11-30 14:01|| Front Page Top

#3 I've noted before that one of the great American accomplishments was to get over the Civil War without the kind of lingering bitterness that often marks -- and reignites -- such conflicts elsewhere.

He ain't been to the south.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2006-11-30 14:13||   2006-11-30 14:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Actually, #3 Brer, Reynolds is from Tennesee.

I can easily see a low level Civil War ala Northern Ireland here. Start with an impotent Governmental response to Jihadi terror which fosters a backlash by vigilante groups.

I give Bush a lot of credit for taking the war to Afghanistan after 9/11. A non-response like we got after the USS Cole would've certainly created a UDA/UFF/Red Hand-style movement like the Belfast Prods and there would be plenty of burnt out mosques, taxis, and ACLU offices.

I'm not endorsing it but I can see how grievances like those of Loyalists and Nationalists in NI can lead to spiraling violence if the Government isn't seen to be addressing the problem(s).
Posted by JDB 2006-11-30 14:28||   2006-11-30 14:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Any attempt by Demo-led Feds to effectively repeal the Second Amendment will be a guaranteed opener. I'd be very interested in knowing just how many patriotic Americans are thinking that the first government official who comes to their house to confiscate their guns will be the first person they've ever killed.
Posted by mac 2006-11-30 17:14||   2006-11-30 17:14|| Front Page Top

#6  The lawyers and the celebrities who don't leave for France as promised will be targeted first!
Posted by USMC6743 2006-11-30 17:23||   2006-11-30 17:23|| Front Page Top

#7 You said it mac ...I have a couple sacrificial guns that could be turned in if the 2nd falls and some self defense guns that will have to be taken after my death and possibly that of others. Protection of family comes above any laws of any government!
Posted by Jim 2006-11-30 19:45||   2006-11-30 19:45|| Front Page Top

#8 They try take away guns, they will find out a LOT about just how cleverly explosives, IEDs and boobytraps can be employed.

Al Qaeda is a bunch of pikers compared to the havoc that could be wreaked by angry Americans.
Posted by OldSpook 2006-11-30 20:18||   2006-11-30 20:18|| Front Page Top

#9 I remember reading about a Marine officer who asked his men whether they would obey an order to confiscate the weapons of American citizens. To a man, they said they'd refuse, based on the Second Amendment.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-11-30 23:10|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-11-30 23:10|| Front Page Top

#10 Al Qaeda is a bunch of pikers compared to the havoc that could be wreaked by angry Americans.

And something like 650 thousand dead Americans in 4 years of brutal, bloody war proved that notion quite effectively. The south's economy was shattered and the north's economy was teetering by the end of things during our first go-'round.

A second go-'round would, I believe, be even bloodier and more brutal. Our population of idiots is a lot higher, for one thing.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg  2006-11-30 23:21|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com]  2006-11-30 23:21|| Front Page Top

#11 It may well be more bloody and brutal, but only because there's a TON of LLL out there in the urban areas. I'd venture to guess that instead of wanton destruction across entire states, we'd see mere craters of a few select cities to get rid of any gun-grabbers.
Posted by BA 2006-11-30 23:49||   2006-11-30 23:49|| Front Page Top

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