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2006-12-14 Arabia

The Curious Case of Nawaf Obaid and Prince Turki

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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-12-14 08:21|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Personally I'm more than a bit tired of Stephen Schwartz and his "Wahabism is the source of all evil"

Posted by gromgoru 2006-12-14 11:48|| 2006-12-14 11:48|| Front Page Top

#2 gromgoru,

Your camel has come untied.
You better go catch him.

Posted by Snogum Greth9397 2006-12-14 13:17|| 2006-12-14 13:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Anybody seen .com?

Posted by gromgoru 2006-12-14 14:17|| 2006-12-14 14:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Wahabism may not be the "source of all evil", but ripping it out, root, branch and vine would certainly be a good start in eliminating global terrorism. Salafist, Deobandist and Talebanist Islamism all come into play as well and need to be exterminated just as much.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-14 15:57|| 2006-12-14 15:57|| Front Page Top

#5 gromgoru asking where I am?

Lol. Knowing you, only a perceived "gotcha" would prompt such a post.

An observation for all, including the pundits and columnists: Occam's Razor does NOT apply to Arab politics, much less the House of Saud.

Always remember the loyalty hierarchy: family, clan, tribe, sect, [Royal Sponsor], [possibly weak nationalism], [Pan-Arabism], Muzzy First.

Everything else is fluff.

The Byzantines may have invented it, but the House of Saud perfected it.

Machiavelli, and all the rest who try to codify politics, were pikers.

Posted by .com 2006-12-14 20:01|| 2006-12-14 20:01|| Front Page Top

#6 BTW, no Saudi operative sits down with WaPo - for any reason, without it being choreographed by the Royal in Charge. Obaid was doing his Master's bidding - and we needn't worry where his next caviar fix will come from.

I figure this particular event was a multi-pronged message, delivered publicly via WaPo and privately via Cheney that the ruling Saudis are damned worried about a premature withdrawal from Iraq. There are, most certainly, others in the money tree with conflicting interests, motives, and loyalties.

Posted by .com 2006-12-14 20:09|| 2006-12-14 20:09|| Front Page Top

#7 ... no Saudi operative sits down with WaPo - for any reason, without it being choreographed by the Royal in Charge. Obaid was doing his Master's bidding - and we needn't worry where his next caviar fix will come from.

Bingo. A Moscow ballet performance isn't choreographed half as well. Although I might beg to differ slightly about just how deep the Saudi game is. Quite obviously, they think that they're the Marianas Trench of political gaming. Compared to our current crop of politicians, they might well be fairly on the mark. With respect to our military's institutional memory for foul play, deceit and deception, these sand loving lamb eaters are in for a huge surprise.

OfF TOPIC: Since you might be peeking in here, .com.

Bravo on your "Absolute Moral Authority Code: Comanche" post in yesterday's moderate Muslim thread. Once I was done howling with laughter, I harvested your point and it will definitely be a litmus test from now on.

Just what exactly is Islam's saving grace? Anybody who can answer that corker in a cogent manner is gonna get one helluva prize.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-14 21:32|| 2006-12-14 21:32|| Front Page Top

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