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2007-04-03 Britain
Fury at RAF Kamikaze plan
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Posted by Anonymoose 2007-04-03 14:38|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Is The Sun aware that April Fool's Day was two days ago? Or maybe Walker needs to be made aware of it. Sheesh...
Posted by Dar">Dar  2007-04-03 14:54||   2007-04-03 14:54|| Front Page Top

#2 "You will fly HIGH up inna sky!..."
Posted by Albemarle Glulet4077 2007-04-03 15:52||   2007-04-03 15:52|| Front Page Top

#3 I've seen jets do a tailstand before. Just do one of those over the vehicle in question and you won't need to even touch it, I guarantee!
Posted by gorb 2007-04-03 16:02||   2007-04-03 16:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Drat it all. I was going to make a wisecrack about "tarang" being difficult to do in a jet, but Google only turns up hits for a new Russian radar with that name.

Anyone else here familiar with how Russian prop-craft pilots were instructed, as a last resort, to use their plane's propeller to chew into an enemy aircraft? I recall this maneuver being called "tarang".

As to this RAF nonsense, the pilots have every right to be absolutely outraged.

“Would you think it unreasonable if I ordered you to fly your aircraft into the ground in order to destroy a vehicle carrying a Taliban or al-Qaeda commander?”

Ummmm ... yes. The vehicle convoys of most top officials have numerous decoy cars specifically to reduce the effectiveness of such a threat. Wotta rectal cavity!
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-04-03 16:07||   2007-04-03 16:07|| Front Page Top

#5 ...I've worked with the RAF and I know their history - if these men saw a target whose survival would mean the death of hundreds or thousands or millions of Britons, they wouldn't hesitate to firewall the throttles and dive into it. It sounds to me like AVM Walker managed to word it like he was suggesting the possibility of ordered suicide attacks as a part of routine combat ops. I can't imagine ordering anyone to dive into a car carrying Bin Laden - it would be a LOT more valuable to have them follow the vehicle.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2007-04-03 16:42||   2007-04-03 16:42|| Front Page Top

#6 Is this the same Britain that would not or stopped an order to rescue 15 of its personnel being abducted on the high seas?
Sounds like the top dogs over there are both out of touch, one with a terminal case of testicular atrophy, the other with a severe case of the vapors.
(WWWD: What Would Winston Do?)
Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-04-03 17:24||   2007-04-03 17:24|| Front Page Top

#7 How hard would it be to set up an F-14 to fly by remote control from an AWACs.

Paint the thing with Iranian markings and smash it into the target of choice. Make sure cameras are there so everyone sees the markings and assumes it's an accident.

Do it twice and the Iranian people might start to think that their own Air Force is in rebellion. I'd bet Ahmadajad would start a purge, blaming his own officers.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-04-03 17:36||   2007-04-03 17:36|| Front Page Top

#8 Russian prop-craft pilots were instructed, as a last resort, to use their plane's propeller to chew into an enemy aircraft

Instructions were not necessary, Russians are hardwired.
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-04-03 18:02||   2007-04-03 18:02|| Front Page Top

#9  Russian prop-craft pilots were instructed, as a last resort, to use their plane's propeller to chew into an enemy aircraft

Chewing my ass. They rammed German combat aircraft...

Instructions were not necessary, Russians are hardwired.

Indeed. Soviet pilot SOP was when in combat and they ran out of ordnance, they did have the option of ramming enemy aircraft. While it wasn't common, it did happen. Some pilots even survived the ramming.
Posted by badanov 2007-04-03 19:11|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2007-04-03 19:11|| Front Page Top

#10 Evidently, there's a world of difference between an American and Soviet ram-jet.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-04-03 21:22||   2007-04-03 21:22|| Front Page Top

#11 Back in the day, if a soviet boomer were on the surface and getting ready to fire its nukes and there were no other way to take it out, it was just understood that the ASW aircraft involved would crash directly into it. That's just the way it was, and everybody on board knew it.
Posted by Bigfoot Sheamp2218 2007-04-03 21:26||   2007-04-03 21:26|| Front Page Top

#12 Bigfoot - that makes sense, and I'm sure those willingly giving their lives to save entire American cities would volunteer. That's why they deserve our praise and support
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-04-03 21:29||   2007-04-03 21:29|| Front Page Top

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