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2007-04-12 Britain

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Posted by Fred 2007-04-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It's true, the Japanese fought a lot harder after Pearl Harbor than they did before, so I guess declaring war just created more militarists. So what?
The idea is not to deprive people of their incentive to be terrorists, it is to destroy ALL of those who respond to such incentive. The central fallacy of the defeatist meme that fighting back "only creates more terrorists" is that the terrorists have always had more recruits than they could possibly use.
Lying media beasts will provide them with the incentive they need regardless of what we do. The objective is to kill as many of them as necessary to discourage the others from acting on this incitement and to convince their sponsors and apologists that their goals cannot be achieved through terror.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-04-12 00:31|| 2007-04-12 00:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Terror war only fuelling more violence

..and cancer surgery begats more cancer

..and fornication begats more fornication

..and passing laws creates more criminals

Posted by RD">RD 2007-04-12 00:31|| 2007-04-12 00:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Yes, RD. Ain't it great?

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2007-04-12 00:54|| 2007-04-12 00:54|| Front Page Top

#4 Frustrated academics strike again. We can never measure up

No truer words have been written. Most of these academics are frustrated marxists that are perpetualy disappointed that the real world does not co-operate with their beutiful theorys.

Posted by Helmuth, Speaking for N guard 2007-04-12 01:26|| 2007-04-12 01:26|| Front Page Top

#5 A few years back, I was in a meeting with a few folks from our very own spiffy intel community, and the "counter-terrorism" guy actually came out with the "root causes" incantation. When I picked my jaw up off the table, I exercised olympian restraint and mumbled something vague.

Excellent fisking, Fred, and great comment, Atomic. I'd add that in addition to destroying and deterring actual terrorist nitwits, a primary goal of some operations is to deny such groups state sponsors or sanctuaries, and esp. state-provided WMDs (thus Iraq). This stuff ain't that hard to understand. The existence of the sort of infantile confusion exhibited by the "study" is astounding enough, its popularity and resilience is beyond comprehension.

Posted by Verlaine 2007-04-12 01:27|| 2007-04-12 01:27|| Front Page Top

#6 There are root causes, but they are unacceptable to the progressives.

For example, the root cause of the Palestinian 'problem' is the river of cash that perpetuates an essentially indolent population, with unlimited free time to plot, seethe, etc. Were they to have to work for a living and run a real state raising its own revenues and provide its own services, the Palestinian problem would dissapear overnight.

Posted by phil_b 2007-04-12 02:06|| 2007-04-12 02:06|| Front Page Top

#7 High School Driver's Ed classes cause more auto accidents and Sex Ed classes cause more teenage pregnancies.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-12 02:57|| 2007-04-12 02:57|| Front Page Top

#8 "It said Britain and the United States used military might to try to keep the lid on problems rather than trying to uproot the causes of terrorism."

I agree. And I note that terrorism these days seems to have one "root cause" that makes all others pale to insignificance: a fanatical devotion to Islam.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-04-12 07:00|| 2007-04-12 07:00|| Front Page Top

#9 And we have a winner! David D hits it square on the nose.

Terrorism.RootCause = Islam
Islam.God(Allan) = Monster

When a peoples' god and prophet are monsters -- we should expect them (as a whole) to become a monster.

Posted by Captain Lewis 2007-04-12 08:48|| 2007-04-12 08:48|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm a big believer in sorting out root causes.

Those would be the ROP and MSM / LLL / Marxist academics enabling the dissemination of its various memes.

Whilst I am realistic enough to recognize that this is unlikely to happen before the next Hadean Glacial Maximum, it seems reasonable enough to suggest that were there a greater awareness of these issues, and a stronger general resolve, military actions could once again be effective deterrents, rather than (at best) partially effective solutions.

Whilst it is true that the military defeat of the Ottoman empire brought about a massive decline in Jihadist fervour and Khalifatist bandwagoning, this time it is more a failure of the ideologies underlying our own civilisations than the limited material successes emanating from their own closed system that provides the motivating factor.

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2007-04-12 09:06|| 2007-04-12 09:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Koran = root cause.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-04-12 09:18|| 2007-04-12 09:18|| Front Page Top

#12
La Ilaaha il Hitlah Muhummudun arsool la la

(repeat x3)

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2007-04-12 09:50|| 2007-04-12 09:50|| Front Page Top

#13 # allan=demon
# demon=terror
/usr/bin/perl

for ($i = 0; $i <= $NumberofMuslimMilitants-1; $i++) {
kill (2, $target[$i]);}

die ("The World is now a safer place!
");

kill HUP => -$$;

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-04-12 13:09|| 2007-04-12 13:09|| Front Page Top

#14 From their website...

Global Security for the 21st Century

This programme contains projects which focus on security threats that are global in their causes and impact. The solutions to these threats will require fundamental shifts in the way that organisations, governments and peoples think about, and legislate for, war and peace.

Central to this programme is an ongoing critical analysis of the current war on terror which shows how acutely the current approach to security is failing, and how it is in danger of distracting world leaders from the far more deadly and unavoidable threats posed by climate change, resource competition, poverty and marginalisation, and global militarisation.

Linked to this analysis are a range of initiatives to shift thinking towards non-military conflict prevention, and the protection of innocent life.

Sound like a bunch of British hippies got together and started up a "think tank"...

Posted by tu3031 2007-04-12 13:28|| 2007-04-12 13:28|| Front Page Top

#15 These jerks never explain why the increase in violence in say Thailand, or Nigeria.

Posted by wxjames 2007-04-12 13:38|| 2007-04-12 13:38|| Front Page Top

#16 The study warned that military intervention in Iran over its nuclear ambitions would be disastrous, calling instead for a firm and public commitment to a diplomatic solution.

Neville Chamberlain couldn't be reached for
comment.

..a think tank warned on Wednesday.

How can I get a gig like that - getting paid for thinking up (or even just repeating) inanities?

Posted by xbalanke 2007-04-12 14:30|| 2007-04-12 14:30|| Front Page Top

#17 xbalanke, the same way these jerks did - create a think tank out of thin air, say something stupid, and apply for a government grant.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-04-12 22:13|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-04-12 22:13|| Front Page Top

#18 In fact...

The Rantburg Center for Civil, Well-Reasoned Discourse opened this week by issuing a study showing that the use of the Logan Act to prosecute US citizens, including politicians, who had attempted to circumvent US foreign policy abroad was long overdue. The Center, long known for its' conservative and right wing views, issued its report and specifically cited House Leader Nancy Pelosi's recent so-called "fact finding" visit to Syria as a key point.

...wait, that's not stupid...though it might seem so to those on the left...

It could work...

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-04-12 22:19|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-04-12 22:19|| Front Page Top

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