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2007-08-01 Arabia

Middle East: Saudis show interest in regional peace with Israel

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Posted by mrp 2007-08-01 09:10|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 "Better the Jews than the Shi'a!"

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-08-01 11:48|| 2007-08-01 11:48|| Front Page Top

#2 Just using the Great Satan to eliminate the little one.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-01 11:55|| 2007-08-01 11:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Hopefully this not a example of Taqyiaa. Actions will speak louder than words. Interesting change of events in Saudi Arabia if true. I am sure the more learned Imam's are trying to find out if the is Haraam or not.

Posted by Delphi 2007-08-01 13:09|| 2007-08-01 13:09|| Front Page Top

#4 I think this is an indication of a growing weariness with the issue and a desire to finally come to grips with it in a logical manner that is sustainable over the long haul.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-08-01 14:44|| 2007-08-01 14:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Actually, Delphi, I got an email from Jonathon Falwell (Jerry's son) after his father's death in which he described a "Huge" meeting between evangelical Christian leaders and some Muslim leaders and politicos.

Basically, his take was that Saudi (through their Reps. here in D.C.) state that they want to change their country and become more open to the outside world, but they have to do it SLOWLY in order to not tweek the jihadi's noses in country. I actually take news of that meeting, as well as this sign about Israel as VERY positive steps for the Saudis. However, I also realize that we must "trust, but verify" especially with them.

The proof will be in the pudding. If they actually take steps to open up, become more "Western", etc., that's got to be good news. However, until they completely STOP funding madrassahs in Paki-Waki, stop preaching Wahabbism, jihadism, etc., they will still be an enemy to me.

Posted by BA 2007-08-01 15:02|| 2007-08-01 15:02|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree with you, BA. They are changing. And the kids growing up today are much more tolerant and open than their parents. When those kids are in positions of power, their kids will be even more open, etc. It is going to take time. It will take two or three generations. The time it takes to change a culture is on a much different scale than US domestic political campaign cycles.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-08-01 15:45|| 2007-08-01 15:45|| Front Page Top

#7 However, until they completely STOP funding madrassahs in Paki-Waki, stop preaching Wahabbism, jihadism, etc., they will still be an enemy to me.

Bottom line, BA. No matter what they say, it's all taqiyya until they do something about wahabbist radicals in country.

When those kids are in positions of power, their kids will be even more open, etc.

The only way "those kids" will ever get within a country mile of "power" in Saudi Arabia is if the House of Saud is deposed. The royals will thwart all efforts to remove them or establish any sort of democracy. History shows a distinct dearth of kings that ever willingly abdicated their power in favor of representative government.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-01 15:58|| 2007-08-01 15:58|| Front Page Top

#8 perhaps more like hudna than taqqiya

Posted by Albemarle Creng7019 2007-08-01 16:33|| 2007-08-01 16:33|| Front Page Top

#9 I think this is an indication of a growing weariness with the issue and a desire to finally come to grips with it in a logical manner that is sustainable over the long haul.

That is much too logical for them, crosspatch.

Posted by Abu Uluque6305 2007-08-01 16:37|| 2007-08-01 16:37|| Front Page Top

#10 I mean, this whole War on Terror would have never even started if the Soddies were capable of advanced thought processes like that. They are the ones who set the whole, big, ugly ball in motion and I don't believe they're even beginning to think about how to stop it yet. If anything, they might be looking for help against the Mad Mullahs but I wouldn't trust them any further than I could spit.

Posted by Abu Uluque6305 2007-08-01 16:43|| 2007-08-01 16:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Anyone believing that "generations" of time will fix this problem overlooks the obvious: the adherents of Islam are incapable of waiting that long--they will cause their own destruction by continuing their attacks on the west long before "generations" pass.

Islam is the problem. Islam has always been the problem.

Posted by Crusader 2007-08-01 18:15|| 2007-08-01 18:15|| Front Page Top

#12 eh... Methinks the headline misleads. The Sauds (*spi*) have shown a willingness to sit down at a table and sip tea with the Israelis present. This isn't even a baby step, it is a fart in their general direction. It would be nice if it were otherwise, but as posters above have said, taqqiya's the word.

Posted by Free Radical">Free Radical 2007-08-01 18:51|| 2007-08-01 18:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Saudis promoted no peace with oil at $10 or less a barrel. Why now when they're raking in the dough? Remember when the Nazis bargained Jews for trucks while simultaneously killing millions? Same b.s. here...

Posted by borgboy2001 2007-08-01 23:23|| 2007-08-01 23:23|| Front Page Top

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