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2007-08-12 Southeast Asia

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Posted by john frum 2007-08-12 08:36|| || Front Page|| [11140 views ] Top
File under: Hizb-ut-Tahrir

#1 A caliphate - or single state for Muslims - last existed in 1924.

Err... the Ottoman Empire might have been ruled by a Sultan calling himself "Caliph" but he was never the religious and temporal ruler of all the world's Muslims.

The Shahanshah (King of Kings) of Iran also claimed to be Caliph.

The Badshah-e-Hind (Emperor of India) also had supreme religious authority in his realm.

The various kingdoms in what is now Indonesia were never under the rule of the Turkish Sultan.

Posted by john frum 2007-08-12 08:49|| 2007-08-12 08:49|| Front Page Top

#2 laws designed by man

First, all of mankind is under the rule of God, so God allows all laws, for His purpose. I suppose that'd include Hitler, too. Well, God at least permits evil to exist.

Second, remind me again, who wrote the Koran? And all of the interpretations thereof? And the fatwas; who writes them?

Ahh, but see, I have a logical mind - sort of like an engineer.

Pity the poor moose - surrounded by mooselimbs.

Posted by Bobby 2007-08-12 09:07|| 2007-08-12 09:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, God at least permits evil to exist.

Yeah, blame God. You get free will and you still blame him. All you have to look around at the crazed left to see that We permit evil to exist as long as it serves our need be it political or non-involvement. However, We choose. We get the consequences. We do not lack the means. We do not lack the resources. We simply lack the will particularly when it means we have to get our own hands bloody. Better to be lesser creations and let God do the correcting than be a greater creation and do the job ourselves.

"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane".

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-08-12 10:05|| 2007-08-12 10:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Where's them earthquakes when ya need them?
Somebody asleep at the switch over at Halliburton?

Posted by tu3031 2007-08-12 10:08|| 2007-08-12 10:08|| Front Page Top

#5 A convention of Islamics. Bet the goat herders made the big bucks.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-08-12 10:48|| 2007-08-12 10:48|| Front Page Top

#6 "it follows what it believes are the laws of God as set out in the Koran, rather than laws designed by man."

Umm Muhammed,

The Koran was desigend by a man. One man and HIS belief of God. The caliphate has never, nor ever shall work.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-08-12 11:29|| 2007-08-12 11:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Hizb ut-Tahrir regards this as the ideal form of government, because it follows what it believes are the laws of God as set out in the Koran, rather than laws designed by man.

One sure reason for opposing such a notion with all your might.

Abu Bakar Ba'asyir was asked to stay away on security grounds

We must have had a hit man in the crowd.

The Palestinian delegate was unable to leave the Palestinian Territories

Qu'elle surprise!

Many experts see it as ideologically close to jihadist groups, and suspect its commitment to peaceful means is purely tactical.

All taqiyya, all the time, baby.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-12 12:37|| 2007-08-12 12:37|| Front Page Top

#8 tu3031: Not earthquake, flu.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-08-12 16:09|| 2007-08-12 16:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Patience tu, patience!

Posted by Halliburton - Goat-related STDs Division 2007-08-12 22:31|| 2007-08-12 22:31|| Front Page Top

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