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2007-08-23 Home Front: Culture Wars
NJ changes policy on illegal immigrants
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Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2007-08-23 14:50|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1  The directive, however, prohibits officers from checking the immigration status of crime victims, witnesses or people seeking police assistance.
How stupid is this. Let them do their job for cripes sake.
Posted by Jan  2007-08-23 16:03||   2007-08-23 16:03|| Front Page Top

#2 So how are the police supposed to check the immigration status of someone is arrested? Ask them? I don't carry my passport or birth certificate with me at all times to prove that I am a citizen.
Posted by Rambler">Rambler  2007-08-23 16:06||   2007-08-23 16:06|| Front Page Top

#3 It was my understanding that a person is always supposed to have ID on them. Usually most carry a drivers license, and proof of insurance if driving. Most carry a wallet with their insurance card or other cash cards of some type of information.
Aren't Green cards supposed to be carried by immigrants?
If not driving, I often have my work pass ID slung around my neck to and from work. The only place that I don't have my ID with me is while I'm swimming, but then I have my keys on me and everything is in my shoe, car or locker.
I don't expect they would identify everyone, but it would be a start, and they would probably ID a good number I would bet.
Aren't there alot of abilities available with the computer trackers in the police cars? Man they have the ability to pull up a person's history for driving infractions way back, you'd think they would be able to get some info on folks. This I've learned from a friend of course ;)
I don't mean to put all of the responsibility on the policemen, but it's as though their hands are tied with the sanctuary policys of looking the other way. We're not talking about the homeless, most folks have a wallet on them with some form of ID.
I know a driver's license isn't the best ID, but it's a start. I don't agree that driver's licenses should be given to immigrants. When I went to Europe, I got an International drivers license and insurance too in order to drive in other countries.

Bottom line, if not on the street, citizenship most definitely should be checked in the court room.
Posted by Jan  2007-08-23 16:48||   2007-08-23 16:48|| Front Page Top

#4 #3: "It was my understanding that a person is always supposed to have ID on them."

Not for a American citizen, Jan - at least not yet. That was decided by a court case in California, of all places.

Foreigners are supposed to carry identification - some kind of proof they're here legally. This is a federal law, which our feckless federal gummint refuses to enforce.

As far as I am concerned, we need to ship as many illegals as possible out of the states and into D.C. Maybe if the congressassholes get inconvenienced enough, they'll insist the laws already on the books be enforced. >:-(
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2007-08-23 18:15|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2007-08-23 18:15|| Front Page Top

#5 I enjoy my freedoms, but I would be willing to carry ID in a public place, to show authorities. As I have nothing to hide and if it would catch a bad guy I'm all for it.

On my own property however, this is a different animal.

If the illegals didn't have ID would they say that they were citizens not needing ID's? Or would the Policemen be charged with profiling, Oh Brother.
It's kind of like our guys being charged with murder for war crimes against the Iraqi civilian, "Oh I'm not a terrorist".

We need to put all of the illegals caught in this jail: Joe Arpaio's jail
Posted by Jan  2007-08-23 19:18||   2007-08-23 19:18|| Front Page Top

#6 3 Felony murder counts, he's illegal, and only $1 million in bail is required? How about NO bail for illegals, who are committing a crime by their very presence
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-08-23 21:18||   2007-08-23 21:18|| Front Page Top

#7 After a review driven by three brutal slayings, the state attorney general on Wednesday ordered New Jersey law enforcers to notify federal immigration officials whenever someone arrested for an indictable offense or drunken driving is found to be an illegal immigrant.

Jeebus, these guyz are gonna be busy with the phone calls. My County has a web-based system where you can be notified of anyone who's arrested from your zip code (they live in your zip code, not where the crime is committed). I get an e-mail probably 3x/week with 8-10 folks arrested, and I'd guess 75-80% of them are illegals, based upon appearances and their citations. LOTS of public drunkeness, driving w/o a license, driving w/o insurance, expired tag, hit and run, etc.

I'm in metro Atlanta (NE toward the "Poultry capital of the world"). Of course, it's a good money-making scheme for the County (tons of money from all the driving citations) and they're fairly easy to spot (just pull over any 1980s domestic van w/ 15 ladders on top and you've got 'em).

And, Rambler, our local police (Gwinnett County and Cobb County) just had a few of their officers "deputized" by ICE. They had to go through a few-day training w/ ICE, and then the County Police are allowed access to ICE's database in order to check their immigration status. I'd imagine ICE's database is not 100% accurate either, but it's a start. At the very least, it gives the locals "probable cause" to investigate their status further and call ICE in on the job. Of course, I'd rather have them sitting in the local jail based upon the original CRIME, instead of released into ICE's "Catch and Release" program. But, as more and more of these type VIOLENT crimes pop up, the politicos are really gonna have a hard time ignoring the "will of the people" on this issue.
Posted by BA 2007-08-23 22:18||   2007-08-23 22:18|| Front Page Top

#8 
Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily

Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. ...

While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745.


That's over 9000 people each year.
Posted by ed 2007-08-23 22:40||   2007-08-23 22:40|| Front Page Top

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