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2007-09-28 Iraq
19,000 Enemy Killed in Iraq
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Posted by Chuck Simmins 2007-09-28 13:17|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top
 File under: Iraqi Insurgency 

#1 Kudos for your accuracy! a 2% or so (I hope, I'm mathematically challenged) is insignificant, for someone working only from open sources.
Posted by anonymous5089 2007-09-28 13:25||   2007-09-28 13:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Nice to have your figures confirmed, ain't it? 96 percent's pretty good accuracy, considering we often have to use Rooters as a source.

You should multiply the figures you got by 1500 and publish them in Lancet. Make some real money.
Posted by Fred 2007-09-28 13:28||   2007-09-28 13:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Nice work, Chuck.

Even better work, Coalition forces. Ooah!
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2007-09-28 13:28||   2007-09-28 13:28|| Front Page Top

#4 You should multiply the figures you got by 1500 and publish them in Lancet. Make some real money.

Or go to work for Harry Reid...
Posted by tu3031 2007-09-28 13:36||   2007-09-28 13:36|| Front Page Top

#5 What do you have against Chuck, tu?
Posted by lotp 2007-09-28 13:52||   2007-09-28 13:52|| Front Page Top

#6 Ok, so it was 4%, told you so.

What do you have against Chuck, tu?

I think tu is suggesting he does that as a rewarding career move AFTER inflating the figure, not as a way of demeaning his work, unless I'm missing your own tongue-in-cheekness.
Posted by anonymous5089 2007-09-28 13:56||   2007-09-28 13:56|| Front Page Top

#7 OK, table comparing our losses vs their losses now up at Terrorist Death Watch. Our losses are high for 2003 since I have no way to match them to the dates and battles where the enemy losses were recorded.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE MEDIA WILL USE ALL LOSSES FOR THE YEAR, AS USA TODAY DOES, INCLUDING THE NON-HOSTILE DEATHS. Please feel free to contact any media outlets using the higher numbers and point out their error.
Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins  2007-09-28 14:06|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org]  2007-09-28 14:06|| Front Page Top

#8 Remember that many of these individuals represent the cream of the crop of terrorism from a dozen different countries, so killing each foreigner results in the improvement of security and stability in at least two countries.

Not to mention foreign agents, like al-Quds.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-09-28 14:07||   2007-09-28 14:07|| Front Page Top

#9 My bad. In the scramble I failed to note that USA Today DID use the correct number of our KIA. I just assumed that the error common to all previous reporting was in this story. It is not.
Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins  2007-09-28 14:12|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org]  2007-09-28 14:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Looked at one data point (Nov 2004, 2nd Fallujah) and lists only 960 killed for the whole of Iraq. Sounds fishy, since an estimated 1200 were killed in the first week if Fallujah 2 alone and estimated over 2000 killed pre and post Fallujah. Even Wikipedia lists 1350+ killed while in the same breath (laughably) claim only 159 killed in the Battle of Najaf (Aug 2004). The Marines claimed 300+ KIA in 2 days in Najaf and the Army did the bulk of the fighting.
Posted by ed 2007-09-28 14:16||   2007-09-28 14:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Hey Chuck we are finally getting somewhere.

You're numbers have us at 5,890 plus the 7,600 min we killed during the invasions and the estimated 2,000 from 2004-2006 and there is a minimum of 15,490. With this release if it's close pushes the enemy KIA close to 40,000 not bad at 10:1 vs Ameriiki Tribe. Will you adjust the site or use the same methodology.

Brian
Posted by Rightwing 2007-09-28 14:18||   2007-09-28 14:18|| Front Page Top

#12 Sorry Chuck,

Didn't read the article correctly 19,000 post toppling of the Regime so we are looking at 26 - 27K Sorry about that!
Posted by Rightwing 2007-09-28 14:23||   2007-09-28 14:23|| Front Page Top

#13 I wouldn't wish Harry Reid on Nancy Pelosi.
Of course, I don't have to...
Posted by tu3031 2007-09-28 14:27||   2007-09-28 14:27|| Front Page Top

#14 tu: Harry Reid on Nancy Pelosi, I may have to gouge my eyes out.
Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins  2007-09-28 14:34|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org]  2007-09-28 14:34|| Front Page Top

#15 19,000 less terrorists in the world.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-09-28 15:39||   2007-09-28 15:39|| Front Page Top

#16 TOPIX NEWS > USA WILL ATTACK IRAN SOON + IRAN ATTACK IMMINENT; + JPOST > JIBRIL: ISRAEL WILL ATTACK SYRIA VERY SOON.Specific Israeli attack option debatable, but Jibril claims any attack on SYria by Israel will be resisted [by force of arms] by Iran, Hizbullah and Paleos. WAFF.com > HOW WW3 MAY BE FOUGHT. US-Iran conflict expands beyond region.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-09-28 23:56||   2007-09-28 23:56|| Front Page Top

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