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2007-09-28 Terror Networks
Saudi Arabia: Friend Or Foe?
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Posted by gromgoru 2007-09-28 04:36|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [336090 views ]  Top

#1 I hope I'm not the only one that would gladly pay $6 a gallon for gas if it meant that we got to burn these guys, and a host of others.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-09-28 06:39||   2007-09-28 06:39|| Front Page Top

#2 As the highlighted comment sez... they are very much friend if you are finishing up your civil service career at the State Department. Otherwise, apart from our petrodollars, they don't give a rip about us--or anyone else, for that matter.
Posted by eLarson 2007-09-28 07:00||]">[]  2007-09-28 07:00|| Front Page Top

#3 foe.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-09-28 07:16||   2007-09-28 07:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Foe. But pretending they're only acting out of enlightened self-interest to support the U.S.

gr*mgoru, did you forget to link to the article, or is this a summary of the three in your highlighted comment?
Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-28 07:23||   2007-09-28 07:23|| Front Page Top

#5 There's new evidence the Saudis aren't cooperating in our battle to eradicate terrorists or those who bankroll them.

Unless you're in the advanced stages of igamortis, you're already congizant of this amazing fact. Thank you Treasury Dept for this blinding bit. You're now on a par with most of the other beltway agencies.
Posted by Besoeker 2007-09-28 07:54||   2007-09-28 07:54|| Front Page Top

#6 why would we have too pay $6 for gas if we just take their oil from them like we should have after they backed hitler
Posted by sinse 2007-09-28 08:31||   2007-09-28 08:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Than their leadership deserves the same treatment as the taliban.
Posted by newc">newc  2007-09-28 08:37||   2007-09-28 08:37|| Front Page Top

#8 teh equation is very simple: What is Saudi Arabia presntly? Nothing. Just a cesspool we don't clean because we are too lazy for that getting money from oil they wouldn't be able to extract alone.

What would be Saudis Arabia is Al Quaida winned? The center of the universe.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2007-09-28 09:11||   2007-09-28 09:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Treasury might not have been hit by the clue-bat yet but they seem to sense it is in the room with them. Can't say the same for State.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-28 09:23||   2007-09-28 09:23|| Front Page Top

#10 There's new evidence the Saudis aren't cooperating...

Duh. Rantburgers sure don't think the Saudis ever coorperated. Duplicitous taqiyya-spewing deceitful snakes. Who needs friends like the Sauds. We are making a bunch of fat-cat sheiks, princes, and royalty rich beyond belief who in turn finance terrorism. At least with the Pakis, Iranians, and Syrians you know what you got.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-09-28 09:34||   2007-09-28 09:34|| Front Page Top

#11 Where's the link?
Posted by tu3031 2007-09-28 09:37||   2007-09-28 09:37|| Front Page Top

#12 I clicked on it a minute ago tu3031 and was taken to the link. Now, it does not work. Computer gremblins at work.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-09-28 09:50||   2007-09-28 09:50|| Front Page Top

#13 Time to kick off operation Torch 2 -- land in N.Africa and work our way east -- Egypt, S.Arabia, Syria, Iran, Pakistan. Just roll'em all up. Take back our oil that's under their soil. I'd pay $6 per gallon or just let my dodge ram sit and buy a Geo Metro. Time to bust fundy islam in the mouth. Unfortunately we have few real statesmen and congressmen of foresight and grit. I liken us to Rome, AD 370ish. Career politicians, fat cats, and poltroons. Few real patriots looking out for us plebians.
Posted by Broadhead6 2007-09-28 09:59||   2007-09-28 09:59|| Front Page Top

#14 Saudi Arabia: Friend Or Foe?
Posted by ed 2007-09-28 10:05||   2007-09-28 10:05|| Front Page Top

#15 You mean there are still some of them walking around live?
Posted by Mitch Rapp 2007-09-28 10:29||   2007-09-28 10:29|| Front Page Top

#16 Foe. Next question.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2007-09-28 11:46||   2007-09-28 11:46|| Front Page Top

#17 Old King Saudi stabbed us in the back
He waited till we slept then launched his attack
Some would stick a hot axle up his ass
But let's just turn Mecca to black glass
Posted by wxjames 2007-09-28 12:14||   2007-09-28 12:14|| Front Page Top

#18 Who needs friends like the Sauds

Our traitor elite, both political and mercantile. As I have noted before, our world's executive leadership demonstrates a highly inappropriate squeamishness about forcing others of their ilk from their sundry thrones or mahogany paneled confines. This closed shop, guild mentality is allowing some incredibly vile gangsters and thugs free run of our globe even though they treat it like their own personal litterbox. Take a close look at yesterday's thread about corruption. Notice how the vast majority of our world is rated at less than 3.0 on a 10.0 point scale in terms of bribery? This is a direct result of thugocracy.

Somehow, tiny Saudi Arabia—the sacrosanct home of Islam—manages to compete with China and Mexico in terms of corruption. Why in hell anyone is surprised that they continue to be our avowed enemy is beyond me. Isn't it obvious that nothing is as it seems in the magic Kingdom?

.com nailed this down tight a long time ago. The Ghawar oil field alone could meet America's petroleum needs for the entire length of time required to get off of the oil tit once and for all. The House of Saud needs to be rolled up like a patch of bad shag carpet. Just their complicity in the 9-11 atrocity justifies this all by itself. The 9-11 terror strike cost America well over one trillion dollars. It's time for us to collect on this debt.

Time to kick off operation Torch 2 -- land in N.Africa and work our way east -- Egypt, S.Arabia, Syria, Iran, Pakistan. Just roll'em all up. Take back our oil that's under their soil. I'd pay $6 per gallon or just let my dodge ram sit and buy a Geo Metro. Time to bust fundy islam in the mouth.

As someone who is out at the pointy end of things, Broadhead6 has got this dialed. Islam has got to go. Either we subjugate its lands with military might or simply cleanse the entire region with neutron bombs. I am rapidly becoming beyond caring about how the job gets done. The entire globe's progress towards peace and prosperity is being stalled by this death cult and it's long past tea to do something about these vermin.

Is it all about the oil? You bet it is. For better or worse, this world runs on it and anyone who wants to argue the point can pound hot sand. The simple fact is that our current global economy is wholly dependent upon petroleum. We need to stop deluding ourselves about where oil comes from and the consequences of funneling trillions of dollars into the hands of our declared enemies.

If Hitler had controlled the entire Middle East oil patch would we have treated with him as we do with the Arabs? Face the question squarely.

We are dealing with a new breed of Nazis and few, if any, people are willing to own up to it. There is a fundamental conflict between Islam and the entire outside world. Muslims are bound and determined to make sure that this conflict cannot be resolved peacefully. Their basic creed nullifies any possibility of productive negotiations, treaties or agreements. What alternatives are left to us? Again, face the question squarely.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-28 13:27||   2007-09-28 13:27|| Front Page Top

#19 Mebbe we should carpet bomb the Sauds with... 12-year old girls. Aieeee!
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2007-09-28 13:45||   2007-09-28 13:45|| Front Page Top

#20 Zenster:

Yes, Saudi oil is in deep pools so the I-will-enflame-the-Persian-Gulf rhetoric is BS. (Kurdistan is also filled with deep oil pockets, and is only 15% explored) Saudi sharia doesn't recognize "kafir" sovereignty; why recognize their sovereignty?

However, I picked up the following translated reprint from an Arab forum. It appears that the House of Saud directed Wahabi clerics to produce anti-Shiite fatwahs. See for yourself:

Bush’s war on Iran starts with a civil war in Saudi Arabia!
The US germs of Shiites-Sunnis strife in Iraq are spreading to Saudi Arabia where the Shiites constitute a minority of 20%. The Shiites inhabit the oil rich eastern province and to a lesser extent in Najran and Madina. On 25.09.07 a meeting was held in Saudi Arabia and attended by Emir Salman, the third in line to the throne, Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, governors, diplomats and security, army and police commanders. The meeting was addressed by the top three Wahabi fundamentalist Sheikhs; Abdullah bin Jibreen, Saleh Al-Fawzan and Nasser Al-Omar. In their sermons all three have called on the government to convert the Shiites infidels to become Wahabis, to burn their mosques and holy shrines and to prevent them from coming to Mecca for Haj. It is true that Shiites citizens are not allowed to hold a high army position or work in the Foreign Service, but it is for the first time that such an open attack has been launched. The Saudis have been sending arms and money to Iraqi Sunnis through the American forces. They are also sending men to attack Shiites mosques and holy shrines there. For the time being, Bush policy is succeeding in rallying Saudi-Sunni support in his war on Iran, disregarding the consequences. Until now, the attacks in Saudi Arabia have been carried out by Sunni Wahabi fundamentalists. One must not be surprised if future attacks are carried out by Shiite suicide bombers and the end of the rule of the corrupt house of Saud.
Adnan Darwash, Iraq Occupation Times
We have the pretext for annihilation war on Iran. The fact that the President is deliberately avoiding a proportionate response to Ahmadinejad's genocidal rhetoric, suggests that rhetoric bombs are not battlefield weapons in what is coming. When Reagan was president, he explained military action after it was a fait accompli; it worked.
Posted by McZoid 2007-09-28 13:47||   2007-09-28 13:47|| Front Page Top

#21 TW (#4) & tu3031 (#11) sorry. Thanks Ed (#14).
Posted by gromgoru 2007-09-28 17:25||   2007-09-28 17:25|| Front Page Top

#22 Foe.

Now that we've got that figured out, when do we do something about it?
Posted by Crusader 2007-09-28 20:27||   2007-09-28 20:27|| Front Page Top

#23 When we can be sure there are alternate supplies, Crusader -- not so much for the U.S., which gets a large part of their supplies from Canada and Mexico, but to keep from dropping the rest of the world into a sudden depression.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-28 22:31||   2007-09-28 22:31|| Front Page Top

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