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2007-10-23 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
SoCal still on fire
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Posted by  2007-10-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 Satellite image here.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-10-23 05:38||   2007-10-23 05:38|| Front Page Top

#2 San Diegans respond with civility.... No Ray Nagins here
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 09:25||   2007-10-23 09:25|| Front Page Top

#3 There is one similarity between Katrina and these wild fires - it's Bushes fault.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2007-10-23 09:47||   2007-10-23 09:47|| Front Page Top

#4 300 homes burned in Rancho Bernardo, 700 total structures gone in SD County.
Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-10-23 10:00||   2007-10-23 10:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Frank G: Stark contrast to what happened in the Superdome. The situations are different and they have power, but the good-will of the people make all the difference.
Posted by Charles 2007-10-23 10:45||   2007-10-23 10:45|| Front Page Top

#6 Quiche vs chocolate.
Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-10-23 10:48||   2007-10-23 10:48|| Front Page Top

#7 The evacuees in my house phoned their houses and their answering machines answered so they figure their houses are still standing.
Posted by treo 2007-10-23 10:50||   2007-10-23 10:50|| Front Page Top

#8 Heh. 2 days off from work and counting.
Posted by Iblis">Iblis  2007-10-23 11:56||   2007-10-23 11:56|| Front Page Top

#9 #2, Good post, Frank. 'Til now I was worried about you. Hang tough.
Posted by GK 2007-10-23 12:22||   2007-10-23 12:22|| Front Page Top

#10 It appears we're safe. I went in to work downtown this AM for a couple hours - coupla deadline quickies to get done and see if they needed help - the downtown area is pretty void of workers, but a lotta evacuee families out walking with the kids, hotels appear full. Back home now. I'm very proud of the way San Diego's handled this. Thx for all concerns, RB is a tight community :-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 13:00||   2007-10-23 13:00|| Front Page Top

#11 From Stephen Quayle's site there is this that alleges terrorists set the fires; anything further to support that thought from those on the scene?
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/10/22/california-fire-battallion-chief-whoever-did-this-knew-what-they-were-doing/
Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-10-23 13:34||   2007-10-23 13:34|| Front Page Top

#12 the largest fire - Witch Creek - was started by a tree branch blowing down on a transformer. There may be small arson fires, but the majority of these are caused by Gaia.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 13:41||   2007-10-23 13:41|| Front Page Top

#13 Two fires set in Irvine were set by an arsonist. Fire in Malibu was from a falling power line. 90 mile an hour winds do that sort of thing.

Personally I decided to evacute to the comfort of the bay area.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-10-23 13:43||   2007-10-23 13:43|| Front Page Top

#14 That's because Gaia said she was cold. Crank up the global warming.
Posted by ed 2007-10-23 13:56||   2007-10-23 13:56|| Front Page Top

#15 I'd be more suspecious of firefighters than terrorists. Heretofore, it's been a pretty quiet fire year.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-23 13:56||   2007-10-23 13:56|| Front Page Top

#16 Photo: a narrow escape for firefighters
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-10-23 14:44||   2007-10-23 14:44|| Front Page Top

#17 We don't need terrorists. We have plenty of local whackos and idiots. Put them together with a years long drought and Santa Ana winds and you've got fire. They are saying now that half a million people have been evacuated from their homes. That's bigger than Katrina. The vast majority of those houses will be OK unlike New Orleans. But, like New Orleans, it still raises questions about whether or not it's a good idea to build in some of these areas. Yeah, I think Al Gore is an idiot but the way people keep pushing out into San Diego's back country it just may be that Gaia really is pissed off at us. BTW, all those smoke plumes help with the global warming because they obscure the sun and lower the temperatures below them. We wanna do our part, you know.

I have a house full of evacuees and they closed my office. I can't go surfing even though the waves are excellent because the air quality is so bad. I can't go to the driving range or anything. It's pretty boring but I guess it's better to be bored and host the evacuees than to be evacuated myself.
Posted by Abu Uluque6305 2007-10-23 16:55||   2007-10-23 16:55|| Front Page Top

#18 But, like New Orleans, it still raises questions about whether or not it's a good idea to build in some of these areas.

And why wood shake roofs are legal in caliphornia.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-23 17:42||   2007-10-23 17:42|| Front Page Top

#19 IIRC - there are no legal nontreated shake roofs in SD, haven't been for 25 years (I started with Bldg Dept Plan Review section then, and I remember the class rating req'd). The overwhelming majority of burnouts are on(inflammable) tile roofs but with the embers getting in the vents and under eaves
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 17:49||   2007-10-23 17:49|| Front Page Top

#20 Frank and Abu, stay safe, and fergawdsakes tell us if you need anything from the RB community.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-10-23 18:31||   2007-10-23 18:31|| Front Page Top

#21 I'm OK unless the wind shifts dramatically (unlikely). My sister's house made it through as well (at last report, likely for good..).

Thanks to all RB'ers
for the well wishes - they are much appreciated. The fire's moved to No. County: Fallbrook/East Pendleton. The Marine's are allowing civilians to transit west across the base. A LOT of houses lost, kinda like tornados - a couple here and there with the rest singed but intact. My prayers go out to all those with such losses. Poway and Ramona are without water as the pump's electric lines were knocked out... logistics reign sometimes
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 18:55||   2007-10-23 18:55|| Front Page Top

#22 btw - Brian Willams on local NBC says (quoting AP, salt req'd?) that 950,000 (all SoCal)were evacuated - far surpassing Katrina, and the largest since the civil war. So far, the problems have been handled.

CA - sometimes NOT the land of fruits and nuts. I hate to sound defensive, but sometimes the assholes up in the Bay Area overshadow the rest of what I know to be a patriotic and hard-working people here in San Diego County (that includes the rest of the Southland - Malibu's on their own)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 19:05||   2007-10-23 19:05|| Front Page Top

#23 heh thanks for keeping us abreast of all the events Frank, and thank God you and yours are safe. Lets keep our fingers crossed..

and Yes it's always neat to witness folks pulling together during CRUNCH time and being part of it.

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CA - sometimes NOT the land of fruits and nuts. I hate to sound defensive, but sometimes the assholes up in the Bay Area overshadow the rest of what I know to be a patriotic and hard-working people here in San Diego County (that includes the rest of the Southland - Malibu's on their own)

hey, I will never defend the treasonous sick M'F that try and pass for human beings up here in the Bay Area, in fact Ima the first to alert folks about these slimebags..

BTW, SF is a super corrupt one party system who is controlled by the same old $$$ for the last 40 + years.. the fruits and nuts are used to pacify the thumb suckers and worse.

BUT

they are a minority, believe me I can take you up or anyone for that matter to Fort Miley/VA Medical Center right in SF and you can meet some of my Vet buddies and Drs. and Nurses that are the salt of the Earth. a thousand places etc.

And anywhere around here, there are super folks who are supremely disgusted by the slime bags, fags and the stinking anti-war turds.

Some folks find it all amusing as hell as if it's all entertainment.. ima not one of those tho, it pisses me off.

'89 quake, We the people put out the quake fires here and opened our homes to anyone cutoff from going home. LOL, we're probably not as kool as San Diego tho BUT...

/btw I have a nephew who lives in SD!
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-10-23 19:55||   2007-10-23 19:55|| Front Page Top

#24 I'm sure the 89 quake invoked the best in people, and they responded, no mass-disparagement, although I know I'm guilty. For the record, I have an Uncle and family in Livermore/Pleasanton. He worked on nukes at the lab. Not a weenie by any measure, nor are my cousins...just saying, I understand
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 20:52||   2007-10-23 20:52|| Front Page Top

#25 as in, RD, I apologize:-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-23 20:53||   2007-10-23 20:53|| Front Page Top

#26 Haven't been keeping up with the news here. Been evacuated since yesterday. The neighborhood is on fire. Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers for San Diego.
Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-10-23 22:25||   2007-10-23 22:25|| Front Page Top

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