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2007-12-26 Science & Technology

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Posted by Steve White 2007-12-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 I shudder to imagine the possibilities for horse-play among recruits.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-12-26 02:15|| 2007-12-26 02:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Shouldn't they have included a ninth one in case of a head injury? (:0

Posted by Almost Anonymous5839">Almost Anonymous5839 2007-12-26 09:00|| 2007-12-26 09:00|| Front Page Top

#3 I wish I knew more... but I do not understand how an Army Surgeon could not improvise a tourniquet.

Anything can be used... just don't understand this part of the story!

Geez... rip off your shirt... strap around the leg and twist...

Blackvenom-2001

Posted by Blackvenom-2001 2007-12-26 10:38|| 2007-12-26 10:38|| Front Page Top

#4 This doesn't smell right. First, AFAIK use of tourniquets have been dicouraged for decades. Second: It is possible to stop bleeding by pressing gard at the right plaace and a surgeon would find it in his sleep. He wouldn't have just stayed with the guy.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-12-26 12:24|| 2007-12-26 12:24|| Front Page Top

#5 Some bleeding wounds cannot be controlled with direct pressure, especially large vascular injuries. Fear of tourniquet use has 0ften hindered employment of this valuable technique. In fact, current research shows that tourniquets save lives and have a relatively limited downside...especially in the face of massive hemorrhagic shock. As such, tourniquet use has been re-introduced in many miltary circles.
With regards to Dr. Rose's inability to place a tourniquet on his wounded friend, he could have been under fire--which is common after IED attacks. It is also possible that the wound may have been so proximal (far up) on the injured limb that a tourniquet could not have been placed, except under the most ideal of circumstances--if at all.

Posted by Helmuth, Speaking for Spusoling6019 2007-12-26 12:55|| 2007-12-26 12:55|| Front Page Top

#6 Rose could not get his comrade a tourniquet....., and sat along the mangled wreckage and talked with him as he took his last breath.

Possibly the guy was trapped in the wreckage and the doctor could not access the wound or a good pressure point to stop the bleeding. Anyone know if they have anything like Jaws of Life to cut guys out of bombed vehicles?

Posted by Steve 2007-12-26 13:00|| 2007-12-26 13:00|| Front Page Top

#7 Steve, having operated a Hurst Tool under emergency services conditions, I can't imagine trying to use it under fire. It does a great job, but it's heavy and noisy and needs its independent power source. And it takes up a decent amount of space.

But since I don't pretend to know what it's like to be hit by an IED, maybe my imagination isn't good enough....

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