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2008-05-08 Home Front: Politix

McCain backs incentives to boost offshore oil

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Posted by Fred 2008-05-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 "But I can't tell people in California what to do with their coast."
"I can't say we must drill in the most pristine environments,"

The WTF are you saying John?? There's enough oil underneath American soil and offshore in American territorial waters to bring the final price per gallon to it's citizens down to 25¢!! Greed, and profit from US oil corporations are riding this pony; with presumed fear of what the Chicoms will do in the future as they maneuver to become the next global super power (the ole...keep ours secure for our future war machine)strategy.
Take my advice John, tap whats ours now...nuke the Chicoms in the future, provided of course Americans don't mind looking at all those oil platforms and rigs right out from their nice sandy beaches, and pina colada setups!

Posted by smn 2008-05-08 04:25|| 2008-05-08 04:25|| Front Page Top

#2 As understood, we need refining capability (experts correct me if I am wrong). States have been making those decisions for a while now - since they were states. Nothing new here.

Environmental groups have been opposing - for better or worse - the development of energy. Agreed with smn on this case if there is a windmill ted kennedy is not interested yet if there is a super efficient coal plant in the high plains then it is an ecological catastrophe. So where do we begin? California needs energy but cannot bulld within state so is it better for the environment to have it built some meters inside another state's border then sold back? For what, a stat for being a green state per capita, whatever their capita is -day by day-?

Yet we on the high plains can't build a super efficient coal plant without the sierra club logging a complaint - the sierra club for crissakes, in Kansas - and have them paid off to stop making a fuss to sell electrcity to all y'all. Whassa matter, the cows gonna get dizzy?

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-05-08 05:18|| 2008-05-08 05:18|| Front Page Top

#3 Do things really have to become very, very bad before they'll get any better?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-05-08 05:43|| 2008-05-08 05:43|| Front Page Top

#4 McCain added. "But I can't tell people in California what to do with their coast."

Right. But let those other states embargo power for their own needs and watch them Californistas and you scream 'Federal Override'. BTW, the states don't own the continental shelf, that's federal jurisdiction.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-05-08 08:27|| 2008-05-08 08:27|| Front Page Top

#5 I guess when gas gets to $7 or $8 dollars a gallon and the average family can't afford to pay their 7 credit card bills and buy enough petrol for the Suburban in the driveway of the house that they bought on an interest only mortgage with no money down, then we'll start to think about making some changes.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-05-08 09:04|| 2008-05-08 09:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Sure sure, that that potential energy must be offloaded somewhere which is where the states can muster influence; ex. wasn't it New York which tried to enact a carbon tax or such on anything unloaded within it's ports (pony express only carries so much so quickly out here so my info may be a bit outdated)?

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-05-08 11:50|| 2008-05-08 11:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Non biased experts have determined that without greed as a motive, and profit as a goal; oil could be refined into gas at 25¢ a gallon for the next 200 to 300 years!! and only from US owned territories!! The Earth is so big (deep), that there are oil seas below the crust layer; individual oil 'bubbles' akin to an ant walking across the roof of the SuperDome! Tapping and retrieving such reservoirs would take a national project not unlike the efforts poured into WWII and the Manhattan Project + sending Man to the Moon, but the resulting benefits would be had by all, in these great states of America!!

Posted by smn 2008-05-08 12:07|| 2008-05-08 12:07|| Front Page Top

#8 I'd like to see some sources on that 25 cent claim, smn.

The oil problem is simple. Quit using so much freaking gas. If people would keep it under 70mph we could save 10%. That's huge. We'd be swimming in gasoline. People need to adjust their lifestyles or quit freaking whining. The problem is of our own making, man up and take some responsibility. You shouldn't have bought that giant SUV, you shouldn't have bought the house you can't afford with an interest only balloon mortgage and you shouldn't be carrying thousand's of dollars of debt on your credit cards. The economic problems we face are ALL self-inflicted. STFU and get your own houses in order and quit looking for the government to fix your problems.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2008-05-08 12:40|| 2008-05-08 12:40|| Front Page Top

#9 I believe DarthVader has a posting today which backs up smn's claim.

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-05-08 12:59|| 2008-05-08 12:59|| Front Page Top

#10 AllahHateMe,the following source (1) will show you that the current "technically recoverable" assets in oil comes to 178 billion barrels, source (2) shows the current daily consumption of the US at 20.6 million barrels and source (3) showing world consumption, good for 'atleast' the next 100 years with 'technically recoverable' reserves alone!
Bottom line, at 7.5 billion barrels of US oil consumption yearly, the US 's total 30 year predicted exhaustion of the 'Technically Recoverable' reserves, would not include the 'Technically Unrecoverable' quotient estimated at 100's of times the known; thus the 200-300 year consumptive quotient!

(1)http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/crude_oil_natural_gas_reserves/current/pdf/appg.pdf
(2)http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html
(3)http://forums.eog.com/politics-and-government/how-much-oil-lies-beneath-earth-64570.html

Posted by smn 2008-05-08 14:40|| 2008-05-08 14:40|| Front Page Top

#11 nice job breaking the page width.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-05-08 15:37|| 2008-05-08 15:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Looks like sources to me.

Posted by Whoque the Slender6519 2008-05-08 17:19|| 2008-05-08 17:19|| Front Page Top

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