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2008-07-30 India-Pakistan

Pakistan denies 'malicious' report on CIA confrontation

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Posted by john frum 2008-07-30 11:15|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Not just the Times. Toronto Globe and Mail...

After years of excusing rumours of Pakistani involvement as being the work of rogue agents or retired intelligence officials acting on their own, Western leaders have become increasingly blunt with Pakistan in private conversations about the ISI's role in the Afghan war.

Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, visited Pakistan this month and confronted his counterparts in a meeting that one diplomat described as stormy. "He lost his temper," the diplomat said.

Posted by tu3031 2008-07-30 11:48|| 2008-07-30 11:48|| Front Page Top

#2 "It was a very pointed message saying, 'Look, we know there's a connection, not just with Haqqani but also with the other bad guys and ISI, and we think you could do more and we want you to do more about it," a senior US official told the Times.

And 'more' WE COULD DO as well. Anger, whining and carping will change nothing with this buggers. Now soundly verified, exploit, exploit, exploit, exploit.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-07-30 11:58|| 2008-07-30 11:58|| Front Page Top

#3 This is NOT news to regulars here.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-30 12:11|| 2008-07-30 12:11|| Front Page Top

#4 From last week's Friday Times (Such Gup)

Rung fuk ho gya

Gill on the Hill cant get over it. Hes been telling all and sundry about the frightening experience hes recently had. It has to do with the day Uncle Sams Admiral came to see him in Isloo. Lest we forget, the Admiral is Uncle Sams absolute top dog in the hierarchy, you cant get more senior than him in the military so when he spoke it was for all Uncle Sams services. A fly on the wall told us General Crown was also there, holding Gills hand. The fly says the Admiral started by saying that that was a very naughty thing to have done with the Lalas consulates in Afghanistan. Gill poor thing apparently stammered, w-w-what do you mean? at which point the Admiral pointed at General Crown and said ask him. Gill asked for proof. The Admiral apparently pulled it out of his briefcase. There were a few other similar exchanges, with the blame being placed firmly on our side or rogue elements not in your control as the Admiral put it. He went on to deliver some more tough talk whereupon, as Gill confessed to a friend, he paled to a ghost white, rung fuk ho gya. Gill also confessed as much to the Frontier wallahs who are writhing in helpless agony at the Taliban advance in their direction. Dont tell us said one ANP leader to Gill, we cant live in Peshawar. One stalwart has actually sold up his house, sent his children abroad and is moving to Isloo.

Gill on the Hill is the PM Gillani
General Crown is General Taj (the ISI Chief)

Posted by john frum 2008-07-30 13:56|| 2008-07-30 13:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Mr. Cargo Cult man... fine comment...

Posted by 3dc 2008-07-30 15:13|| 2008-07-30 15:13|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm not surprised. The Pakistanis don't believe we'll last through the long haul, and nothing they do will get us to retaliate. They should be proven very, very wrong. Wiping out Islamabad/Rawalpindi in an old-fashioned bombing raid (massed bombers, lots of iron bombs, firebombs, and cluster munitions) would go a long way toward putting the fear of God into these people. They need to KNOW, deep in their soul, that stirring the ant's nest of the United States will result in the worst possible stinging they'll ever get. Right now, they're laughing at us. If Oramabamadingdong gets elected president, we'll lose ALL respect in South Asia. Our politicians have created an abominable mess, and it's going to cost us plenty to clean it up.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-07-30 15:18|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-07-30 15:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Seen in another blog: And just like how the US looked the other way when Turkey took some action into Kurdistan - the Pakistani military will have to not only ignore the Taliban - but US forces in hot pursuit.

See - problem solved.

Posted by 3dc 2008-07-30 19:05|| 2008-07-30 19:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Paks might be right -- after all, it was only in the New York Times.

NPR had a long interview yesterday (?) with a reporter whose beat is Pakistan and Afghanistan. The gentleman said there are some 200 (or perhaps it was 2000, I wasn't yet paying close attention at that point) CIA people in Pakistan, based in Army cantonments, where they collect information from various instruments and people. Apparently every single one is terribly frustrated that the Pakistanis consistently refuse to act on actionable intelligence, and those few times they do act they somehow manage to come up empty. The good admiral was not just shouting DoD frustrations.

NPR has been having some surprising reports lately.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-07-30 23:15|| 2008-07-30 23:15|| Front Page Top

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