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2008-08-05 Home Front: Politix
GOP: Lift drilling ban or risk shutdown
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Posted by Steve White 2008-08-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [336085 views ]  Top

#1 This issue is too big to ignore. We have never had a COMPREHENSIVE energy policy and plan. Pumping oil out of a salt dome savings account is NOT a plan. It is an appeasement band aid.

I say, shut the m****r f****r down and ram this down the dems tratorous throats. Get some gravel in your guts republicans, and quit feeding from the trough for a bit and do the right thing.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2008-08-05 00:31||   2008-08-05 00:31|| Front Page Top

#2 The shutdown is going to be far more favorable for the Republicans this time. They can let the Dems ram the legislation through over their unanimous objection, allow the unpopular lame-duck President to veto it, and refuse to help override the veto when it comes back. All of the pressure will be squarely on the Dems to cave, I doubt those up for re-election outside of very solidly blue districts will have the stomach to stand with Reid & Pelosi on this one.
Posted by AzCat 2008-08-05 01:52||   2008-08-05 01:52|| Front Page Top

#3 If the Trunks had a bit of smarts in their cranium, they'd put full pressure on, with everyone but the hard blue district players in a untenable position and then....
pull procedure to elect a DINO as the new speaker, along with those DINOs out to save their own hide. Pass the end to the moratorium and pass continuing resolutions on department funding to keep the place running and leave the situation to sort itself out till after the election.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-08-05 09:17||   2008-08-05 09:17|| Front Page Top

#4 GO FOR IT! Take down Pelosi and the dems and you take down her puppet the Obamessiah.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-08-05 09:45||   2008-08-05 09:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Shut the government down. I bet most people would support it at this point.
Posted by DarthVader 2008-08-05 11:49||   2008-08-05 11:49|| Front Page Top

#6 It matters nothing. No one is going to spend money on drilling based on Congress's failure to renew the ban in September. The Dems figure they can let the renewal lapse, but it won't make any difference because they'll be running the entire show come January.
Posted by Iblis 2008-08-05 12:14||   2008-08-05 12:14|| Front Page Top

#7 Is that wishful thinking on your part, Iblis ?
Just recently Obama was so confident he would become Pres, that he bought an AF-1 of his own and went on a victory tour.
Now, he trails by 1. Are you still sure Iblis ?
Posted by wxjames 2008-08-05 13:01||   2008-08-05 13:01|| Front Page Top

#8 It matters nothing. No one is going to spend money on drilling based on Congress's failure to renew the ban in September. The Dems figure they can let the renewal lapse, but it won't make any difference because they'll be running the entire show come January.

I'm afraid this is right. Compare and contrast the size of the American oilfield now with what it was in the mid-80's. It was 50% larger then. It'll take massive hiring and capital expenditures to get it that large again, and noone's going to risk doing that when the Dems are looking forward to getting four years of virtual dictatorship starting in January.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-08-05 14:05||   2008-08-05 14:05|| Front Page Top

#9 ...when the Dems are looking forward to getting four years of virtual dictatorship starting in January

I'm fascinated and amused by the fatalism that people are taking already assuming that as a fact. Destroying your opponents will the resist seems to be working as people are surrendering even before the fight.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-08-05 15:41||   2008-08-05 15:41|| Front Page Top

#10 Maybe so, but IF you had _a couple hundred billion dollars_ or so to invest in the oil industry, would you invest it RIGHT NOW not knowing whether the investment was going to be wiped out come January 22 thanks to a new Windfall Profits Tax?
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-08-05 15:58||   2008-08-05 15:58|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm fascinated and amused by the fatalism that people are taking already assuming that as a fact. Destroying your opponents will the resist seems to be working as people are surrendering even before the fight.

I think the Dems accept this as an article of faith, so understanding Dem thinking requires accepting as given a Dem victory come November.

Personally, I really wish we weren't running McCain this year, because I like our chances for the presidency.
Posted by Iblis 2008-08-05 15:59||   2008-08-05 15:59|| Front Page Top

#12 I have to agree with Iblis and Abdominal Snowman. On NPR this afternoon they were talking about Obama's coat tails in this election. If I had money to invest in oil fields, I certainly wouldn't do so until after the election returns came in.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-08-05 20:35||   2008-08-05 20:35|| Front Page Top

#13 NPR is very heavy into wishful thinking. They should be the first agency Bush defunds in the shut down.

I'll dissent from AS and Iblis on two counts.

First, regardless of who wins, I expect this to be a very close election. A lot of Barry's most fervent supporters will have a cow if the ban is lifted, even if only for 3 months and it could hurt his support from the base.

Second, Barry is doing a lot of flipping, a lot. This will make a great ad late in the election. People, especially those who wait till the last minute to decide, want a leader who knows where he wants to go, even if it isn't the direction they would choose, rather than someone who checks the polls every day to find out what to stand for.

The donks are between a rock and a hard place on this issue, especially if the trunks play their cards right. The trunk House leadership is finally doing a good job of putting it to the donks. Donks who vote one way in October and another in January will be in a world of hurt if oil prices are high at the next election.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-08-05 21:55||   2008-08-05 21:55|| Front Page Top

#14 I don't support off-shore drilling or nuclear power. Why not offer electric engine conversions if we need more power. Creating more floating homages to past civilizations is behind the times. Why not offer to sell small solar panels to all households and office buildings if we need it? Surely someone could make a business out of THAT economy?
Posted by Durin Tazwell 2008-08-05 22:23|| http://h1.ripway.com/pfXs]">[http://h1.ripway.com/pfXs]  2008-08-05 22:23|| Front Page Top

#15 How's that electric replacement for diesel truck engines coming along, Taz?
Posted by Muggsy Glink 2008-08-05 23:49||   2008-08-05 23:49|| Front Page Top

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