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2008-08-14 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Jumblatt deserts Lebanons pro-Western camp, signs pact with pro-Iranian Hizballah

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-08-14 03:52|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 He'll be back.

Then he'll leave.

Then he'll be back.

Then he'll leave.

Whatever.

Posted by Halliburton - Asymmetrical Reply Division 2008-08-14 09:20|| 2008-08-14 09:20|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't think Wally was so much pro-Western as he was pro-Western freebies. One of the things you learn about these guys is that they are principled people, and their main principle is "gimme more".

Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-08-14 12:32|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-08-14 12:32|| Front Page Top

#3 Wally's pro-Wally. It's how you stay alive in that cesspool.

Posted by tu3031 2008-08-14 12:36|| 2008-08-14 12:36|| Front Page Top

#4 1 He'll be back.

Then he'll leave.

Then he'll be back.

Then he'll leave.

Whatever.
Mr. Halliburton Asy..

that's a most cogent delineation of Walid's entire adult life.. <|:)

I believe that both his grand father and father were assinated.

nice neighborhood tho.. /yes that's sacasism

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2008-08-14 12:38|| 2008-08-14 12:38|| Front Page Top

#5 assinated... hummm not sure what that woid is..

assassinated

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2008-08-14 12:40|| 2008-08-14 12:40|| Front Page Top

#6 this whole discussion is based on an item from Debka right?

ZF - Wallys never been pro-western. hes been pro-wally. In the context of leb politics the last few years, that meant being anti syrian and anti-hezb. Unless hes given up all hope of beating Hezb, hes probably still that way.

He also has to consider the possibility of an Israeli syrian deal.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-08-14 12:46|| 2008-08-14 12:46|| Front Page Top

#7 The Druze are the Arab clan/tribe writ large. Its a hereditary sect that survives(ed) by keeping itself seperate. Wally is just doing his job, making sure the Druze come through this. Our long game is just a blink of an eye for someone like him.

Posted by phil_b 2008-08-14 13:47|| 2008-08-14 13:47|| Front Page Top

#8 LH: ZF - Wallys never been pro-western. hes been pro-wally.

What I was trying to say is that he is pro-Druze, and pro whatever benefits him personally.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-08-14 14:54|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-08-14 14:54|| Front Page Top

#9 is the USA pro-western or pro-USA?

something to think about as the vandal army marches through Georgia

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-08-14 14:57|| 2008-08-14 14:57|| Front Page Top

#10 Gee, LH, unless I take that seemingly rhetorical question the wrong way, you're being sarcastic, right? The USA, going back to my father's generation, has done more for decency and freedom (as defined in the west - er, wow, seems to be pretty much as defined elsewhere, judging by behavior and words) than all the other countries put together, times 1,000. That includes taking care of the "vandal's" pensioners when their little totalitarian enterprise collapsed back in '91. Oh, and we took care of Georgia's, too. And tried to help those of their Abkhaz brethren, too. And the same on all divides of all the stupid little conflicts in that scenic region.

To rationalize Jumblatt's behavior as rational in a self-preservation sense is unobjectionable. To not recognize the moral degradation of his actions, and those of most of his neighbors and compatriots, is silly. To pretend that the US, already shouldering 99% of the world's burden of securing freedom or at least decent non-Hobbesian state behavior, is somehow similar to the contemptible jerks "leading" various Arab tribes is ignorant and morally imbecilic.

But I'm sure that's not what you were getting at.

Posted by Verlaine 2008-08-14 19:19|| 2008-08-14 19:19|| Front Page Top

#11 P.S. - to borrow a phrase, it can only bring joy to an American heart when a Druze soldier is killed. Wait - that sounds familiar somehow .... apologies if I lifted that from the annals of any dirtbag Lebanese gang leader who resembles Marty Feldman.

Posted by Verlaine 2008-08-14 19:21|| 2008-08-14 19:21|| Front Page Top

#12 The West deserted the Druze, as did our leaders abandon the 2,000,000 Christians that have been cleansed since 1948, from what was once Roman Palestine.

Would everyone get a copy of the "Helsinki Accords"? There is widespread ignorance of signatory obligations re. the treatment on internal minorities. In the course from 1977 to 2008, it somehow became right to oppress same, as long as your country has the George Soros "freedom" stamp branded on rhetoric.

Posted by McZoid 2008-08-14 21:00|| 2008-08-14 21:00|| Front Page Top

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