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2008-11-05

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Posted by Steve White 2008-11-05 01:50|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Screw polite. The mindless attack droid donks are getting what's coming to them. Attack after attack after attack and only kind ones when everyones looking. When their not, Murtha is a fat little bastard.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-11-05 02:07|| 2008-11-05 02:07|| Front Page Top

#2 A sober, rational essay, Steve, befitting a citizen of a mature democracy.

And I say to hell with it. At least this part:

We won't file for impeachment the first day Barack Obama is in office.

I call for a Constitutional amendment that will mandate impeachment proceedings from the first day of each Administration until its last. That way we can get the suspense over with, and it will keep Congress off the streets. Also, any power-mad sociopath who aspires to the Presidency must already be corrupt. There'll be an impeachable offense in there somewhere, and if we can't find one, we'll make one. Serves 'em right.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2008-11-05 02:38|| 2008-11-05 02:38|| Front Page Top

#3 No, not impeachment -- just repay the Dems in kind for the crap that they pulled as the outside party before 2006. You know, impede EVERY piece of legislation, FIGHT each and every judicial nomination, FIGHT all of Hussien's Cabinet nominations that need Congressional approval, etc.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2008-11-05 02:42|| 2008-11-05 02:42|| Front Page Top

#4 "Screw polite. The mindless attack droid donks are getting what's coming to them."

Fuckin' A! We are the opposition now, pay them back, measure for measure, blow for blow, for eight years of abuse and hate.

Resist Obamunism at every turn; boycott the tanker media and its advertisers, hide your income, stockpile guns and ammunition.

Posted by Sleger Bonaparte8317 2008-11-05 02:49|| 2008-11-05 02:49|| Front Page Top

#5 The last western democracy have fallen to transnational positivism---welcome to the brave new world.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-11-05 04:09|| 2008-11-05 04:09|| Front Page Top

#6 How can Obama disabling credit card security checks to allow money laundering and foreign (illegal) campaign contributions be a conspiracy when it really happened?

Posted by Adriane 2008-11-05 04:24|| 2008-11-05 04:24|| Front Page Top

#7 Democrats have the power. What will they do? What are the issues?

(in no particular order)
TAXES
Redistribution
Fairness doctrine
Israel
Military
2nd Amendment
Judges

Posted by Minister of funny walks 2008-11-05 05:29|| 2008-11-05 05:29|| Front Page Top

#8 Like it or not, America's fortunes are now tied to the "success" of President Obama's administration. We need to respectfully oppose him and force him to the center when he pursues policies we disagree with and support him when he takes a reasonable stand on an issue. But only if the Democrats put their extremists forward and center should we adopt the counterproductive confrontationalism which we have seen from the Left over the last 8 years.

Now is the time for Republicans to restore the grassroots appeal of our party, hopefully reconnecting with voters under the leadership of someone like Newt Gingrich as party chairman. We need to advance ideas on energy, tax and other policies which will sow the seeds for the renaissance of conservative governance.

Posted by Grumenk Philalzabod0723 2008-11-05 06:04|| 2008-11-05 06:04|| Front Page Top

#9 As the victor, Obama has to put the Obama Doctrine into place
My reading of the doctrine is that it is premised on a strong growing economy, which is no longer the case.
As Soros points out, the US has been consuming 5 to 6 % more than it produces for the last how many years. The only reason it kept going was the savings of the rest of the world, especially China. The cookie jar is now empty.
The only way Obama can put his policies into practice is by turning up the printing press without regard to inflation. Watch gold and silver skyrocket.
What to do?
Obama has used NLP/Hypnosis combined with Alinsky tactics to lull the electorate into a false sense of euphoria.
Alinsky warned the radical/organizer not to seek political office, because if they do they become the "enemy" and will be held hostage to the Alinsky tactics of performance.Obama, whatever his reason decided to disregard this advice.

The price of a successful attack is a
constructive alternative. you cannot risk
being trapped by the enemy in his
suddenly agreeing with your demand and
saying Youre right we dont know
what to do about this issue. Now you
tell us
So just say "right, you've got the field, now what"
As we know what is going to happen, alternative policies can be thought up, and using Alinsky tactics, used to skewer him.
As Patton said (Outmaneuvering Rommel): referring to Rommel's book, 'Infantry Attacks' or 'Infanterie greift an'] Rommel... you magnificent bastard, *I read your book*!

Posted by tipper 2008-11-05 07:22|| 2008-11-05 07:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Respect the office while it yet stands? Yes. Respect evil? Never. No exceptions, no apologies.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-11-05 07:29|| 2008-11-05 07:29|| Front Page Top

#11 Here's my inauguration gift to our new Marxist overlords: I won't be paying any taxes next year. Nothing illegal mind you, the numbers just work out that way :)

Posted by Thor Grairt5784 2008-11-05 07:29|| 2008-11-05 07:29|| Front Page Top

#12 So just say "right, you've got the field, now what

What the right should be doing now:

1) Dig in

2) Take stock of ammo

3) Await relief.

Posted by badanov 2008-11-05 07:48|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2008-11-05 07:48|| Front Page Top

#13 We're a fair, decent, tolerant, open-minded nation, and once again we demonstrate the old adage that "anyone can become President."

Well, yesterday we were a lousy, rotten, racist, unfair piece of shit by their assessment. So what has changed since then? This one guy winning an election? Give me a break and just tell me how they are going to blame everything on republicans when they have a majority in both chambers.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-11-05 08:03|| 2008-11-05 08:03|| Front Page Top

#14 On a positive note, it is going to be real hard for the left to ever again claim America is racist.

Posted by Bunyip 2008-11-05 08:10|| 2008-11-05 08:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Bunyip, that might be why Jesse Jackson was tearing up last night. Now what's he gonna do to get cash? ;)

Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2008-11-05 08:20|| 2008-11-05 08:20|| Front Page Top

#16 Oh what poor sports and cry babies. First give the man a chance before you sabotage America. Obama hasn't done one thing you accuse him of done yet.

Find a real reason before you try the impeachment AND most of all elect a majority in congress.

The majority disagrees with you.

Posted by Snavins Forkbeard5154 2008-11-05 08:32|| 2008-11-05 08:32|| Front Page Top

#17 it is going to be real hard for the left to ever again claim America is racist. Twon't matter a bit. Anyone who opposes the left's agenda will be tagged "racist" or worse. Doesn't anyone get it that "racist" is an ideological weapon, not a useful description of anything? The term is used for the same purposes as "blasphemy" is used in the Islamic world.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-11-05 08:33|| 2008-11-05 08:33|| Front Page Top

#18 I, for one, hope that the Republicans in the Senate are able to prevent confirmation of even one judge appointed by Obama, Pat Leahy, and Harry Reid.

Posted by RWV 2008-11-05 08:53|| 2008-11-05 08:53|| Front Page Top

#19 Find a real reason before you try the impeachment...

I believe you miss the point of the exercise.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2008-11-05 08:55|| 2008-11-05 08:55|| Front Page Top

#20 "John McCain, an honorable and noble man, has clearly demonstrated that simply running a good soldier and decent American is not sufficient to win a national election."

You think we would have learned our lesson with Bob Dole.

Posted by Carbon Monoxide">Carbon Monoxide 2008-11-05 09:04|| 2008-11-05 09:04|| Front Page Top

#21 A few other words of advice:

1) You must reconquer education: it is there where brains are molded and so called progressist ideas are forced into youngsters. That could go from having more conservatives trying to become teachers (hard) to suing professors who use their chair (and your money) to indoctrinate instead of teaching and schools/universities who allow this.

2) Apply the Geneva Conventions. Their basic idea is that the other guy is prevented from fighting dirty by knowing that if he does you will do it too so he will get nothing. When Obama beaks its promise of sticking to public financing then wait afew days, hammer that you regret it but you are forced to do the same. If the MSM edits an inteview of you then publish the raw footage. If your opponent resorts to illegal contributions and large scale voter fraud you don't conced gracefully like Nixon did in 1960 or McCain did yesterday. You make a Watergate of it. And if you are lucky enough to havce won despite fraud like George W Baush then you don't staty quiet about it (it is better when you don't look like you are trying to revetrt popular suffrage) you go as high as needed (yes, ven to Gore and Kerry if they were involved), jailing organizers. Then and only then America will have clean elections and the Democratic party will play fair.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-11-05 09:09|| 2008-11-05 09:09|| Front Page Top

#22 just tell me how they are going to blame everything on republicans when they have a majority in both chambers. They will blame the republicans when it suits them, and find other convenient targets of opportunity to blame as they will. Remember Herbert Hoover served as a convenient target for decades.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-11-05 09:11|| 2008-11-05 09:11|| Front Page Top

#23 You must reconquer education I think reforming existing such severely defective institutions is a lost cause. They cost far too much for what they provide. A parallel system will have to be created, perhaps with home-schooling as a model.
suing professors Nah, slash their funding and send them home. State government income is falling rapidly, and that would be a good excuse.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-11-05 09:19|| 2008-11-05 09:19|| Front Page Top

#24 "John McCain, an honorable and noble man, has clearly demonstrated that simply running a good soldier and decent American is not sufficient to win a national election"

John F. Kerry, too.

Posted by Grenter, Protector of the Geats 2008-11-05 09:19|| 2008-11-05 09:19|| Front Page Top

#25 Can the result of the election be considered to be an obamanation?

Posted by Chemist 2008-11-05 09:22|| 2008-11-05 09:22|| Front Page Top

#26 To protector of the Goats.

John Kerry a good soldier? Yopu mean like Murtha and Benedict Arnold?

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-11-05 09:33|| 2008-11-05 09:33|| Front Page Top

#27 suing professors Nah, slash their funding and send them home. State government income is falling rapidly, and that would be a good excuse.

No. First of all you need to take control of the institution/state in order to do send them home while suing can be done by private citizens. Second: it doesn't punish enough to be a deterrent.
Third: The link is not clear enough between the reprehensible actiona and the punishment

Force them to refund teh whole of what they have been paid since they were hired and damages for loss of time and, career opportunities: "Yes your honor, my teacher ranted about Bush instead of teaching Maths like supposed to do so I didn't become an engineer resulting in the loss of loooooooots of menu. I demand for ten million dollars in compensation". Last but not least the instituytion who hired a Ward Churcill like professor and didn't fire him when it appeared he was usinhg his tenure as a tribune should be made bleed big money. It is the only way to break the liberalo-communist grip in teaching institutions.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-11-05 09:46|| 2008-11-05 09:46|| Front Page Top

#28 This will be Jimmuh II only worse.

There will be major problems overseas including to one degree or other:
1) Russian recapture of "lost" republics. They've already moved on Georgia again made noises about the Ukraine and announced increases in missles
2) Iranian surrogates attacking Israel. Hezbollah has already announced that Israel has to be constricted back to imaginary 1920 borders annexing much of North Israel to Lebanon.
3) Iranian stooges taking over Iraq. We'll see
4) China making some sort of strong move on Taiwan. We'll see
5) Venezuela making a move on Columbia. Can you say FARC boys and girls?

Economically we will see:
1) massive inflation due to soaring energy costs. Let's bankrupt 49% of our energy producers (aka coal) what will that do to the price of food or any other commodity? Oh, yeah and the tax increases on business.
2) large tax increases. Already planned. I figure the "rich" will be defined down to about $75,000 by the time they're done. Richardson has already got it down to $120k.
3) high interest rates. they have to go up given 1, 2 & 3. Ought to be real good for the construction industry just like it was last time.
4) high unemployment. As business fold due to 1 & 2 & 3; been there, done that circa 1978.
5) large restrictions on free trade will echo Smoot-Hawley. Re-write NAFTA is only the start. Hurting free trade will just exacerbate an already dicey global economy.
6) Massive federal deficit increases as more money is poured into the UN programs (Kyoto style scams and massive transfers from "rich" countries (AKA USA) to Africa) and welfare schemes (that gas has to be paid for), healthcare etc. I'm assuming they will live up to their promises.

Rights will be curtailed:

1) Free speech will be attacked via a new "fairness" doctrine that will also by expanded to include the Net and Cable venues, I expect the first part withing 3 months. Again, they've said they will do this ..
2) mass expansions of gun control beyond the re-imposition of Clinton "assault" rifle bans (see the Chicago & DC rules).and this.
3) ultra-liberal judges will invent more "positive" rights..and this

And this doesn't even include my extreme possibilities because I think the odds of them are too low to make the list though I wouldn't be terribly surprised.

Posted by AlanC 2008-11-05 09:51|| 2008-11-05 09:51|| Front Page Top

#29 Alanc:

You forgot two crucial parts:

1) Jihadists will be emboldened: they will see that you can kill thousands of Americans and that sooner or later (sooner likelier than later, Bush II came close to defeat in 2004) they will cut and run.

2) LOcal allies and informers will know thatb America's support is short lived: sooner or later they will abandon you and then the jihadists will kill you. If America neeeeeds again to occupy a country nobody will report on those who set IEDs. No more Anbar awakenings.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-11-05 10:04|| 2008-11-05 10:04|| Front Page Top

#30 How about.....new taxes on computers, internet commerce, and mandetory IP address registration?

Posted by Besoeker 2008-11-05 10:09|| 2008-11-05 10:09|| Front Page Top

#31 On a positive note, it is going to be real hard for the left to ever again claim America is racist.
Bunyip, does that mean that America's original sin of slavery,is erased?

Posted by tipper 2008-11-05 10:24|| 2008-11-05 10:24|| Front Page Top

#32 To be honest if I was a bad guy running a nation that hates America I'd ratched down the Rhetoric while I built up my military. I'd say all the right things to make Obama and the lefties happy and hope the US pulls backs and perhaps disables some of the US military. Get all you can without conflict during the 4 years and then decide what to do during the next election.

And when i decided I'd time my actions with a few other evil-doers to make sure America couldn't react to all of us.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-11-05 11:00|| 2008-11-05 11:00|| Front Page Top

#33 Selfishness, ladies and gentlemen, is the order of the day. Get your slice of the government cheese. Apply for government bailouts, loans, subsidies. It's the new and shiny American way.

Bring our troops home and jobs. Stop subsidizing other nations development, retirement and party funds. 63 years of carrying the world's burden is more than enough. The natural position of America is the aloof, decisive third party. Meant to be courted, flattered and showered with gifts, not the one bearing blanks checks or getting our hands dirty in every little pissant dispute.

And, if you're over 50, consider shifting a lot more of your taxable savings to medium term tax free, but high quality, bonds next year. I can see demand for them skyrocketing once the size and scope of tax increases are revealed.

Posted by ed 2008-11-05 11:17|| 2008-11-05 11:17|| Front Page Top

#34 Great article, Steve W. Thanks putting your thoughts together and sharing them with us. Your ideas are always worth taking the time to read and consider.

Posted by ryuge 2008-11-05 12:41|| 2008-11-05 12:41|| Front Page Top

#35 *thanks for*

Posted by ryuge 2008-11-05 12:42|| 2008-11-05 12:42|| Front Page Top

#36 A response:

Ryuge, thank you.

Besoeker: new taxes are inevitable so I'm sure we'll be looking at taxes on internet commerce. Taxes on IPs are another one. The Democrats may not be able to push a Fairness Doctrine for the net but they'll tax us to use it (and then subsidize 'proper' use).

rjschwarz: yup. If the Mad Mullahs of Iran are smart, that's what they'll do. I don't think Short Round is that smart but the ayatollahs are. Back off publicly and keep those centrifuges spinning.

AlanC: I do think Russia will be frisky. Ukraine is in big trouble and I don't see Obama defending them. In Bambi's defense, I think most of the European members of NATO won't defend Ukraine either. Such a move will, however, put a spike in NATO.

China won't launch a military invasion of Taiwan. They won't need to. They'll sign 'trade agreements' like the one they just did and work to wear down the Taiwanese.

On tax increases, there is no way (as we all know) that Bambi can do the things he says he wants to do without massive tax increases, even if he cuts military spending by 10% (which is a near sure-thing). He needs something on the order of 200 to 300 billion a year in new revenue just to keep the deficit where it is. So open yer wallets, citizens.

But I don't see 'free trade' being curtailed as much as some fear, for the simple reason that other countries would retaliate. Obama is smart enough to recall 'Smoot-Hawley'.

I see hard times a'coming. We need to be sensible, prepared and forthright without ever being screechy or looney.

Posted by Steve White 2008-11-05 12:55|| 2008-11-05 12:55|| Front Page Top

#37 1) Russian recapture of "lost" republics. They've already moved on Georgia again made noises about the Ukraine and announced increases in missles

It did not take long, did it?

Medvedev: Russia to deploy missiles near Poland
By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer Steve Gutterman, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 5 mins ago
MOSCOW Russia will deploy missiles near NATO member Poland in response to U.S. missile defense plans, President Dmitry Medvedev said Wednesday in his first state of the nation speech.

Medvedev also singled out the United States for criticism, casting Russia's war with Georgia in August and the global financial turmoil as consequences of aggressive, selfish U.S. policies.

He said he hoped the next U.S. administration would act to improve relations. In a separate telegram, he congratulated Barack Obama on his election victory and said he was hoping for "constructive dialogue" with the incoming U.S. president.

Medvedev also proposed increasing the Russian presidential term to six years from the current four, a major constitutional change that would further increase the power of the head of state and could deepen Western concern over democracy in Russia.

The president said the Iskander missiles will be deployed to Russia's Kaliningrad region, which lies between Poland and the ex-Soviet republic of Lithuania on the Baltic Sea, but did not say how many would be used. Equipment to electronically hamper the operation of prospective U.S. missile defense facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic will be deployed, he said.

He did not say whether the short-range Iskander missiles would be fitted with nuclear warheads and it was not clear exactly when the missiles would be deployed.

"Mechanisms must be created to block mistaken, egoistical and sometimes simply dangerous decisions of certain members of the international community," he said shortly after starting the 85-minute speech, making it clear he was referring to the United States.

The president said Georgia sparked the August war on its territory with what he called "barbaric aggression" against Russian-backed South Ossetia. The conflict "was, among other things, the result of the arrogant course of the American administration, which did not tolerate criticism and preferred unilateral decisions."

Medvedev also painted Russia as a country threatened by growing Western military might.

"From what we have seen in recent years, the creation of a missile defense system, the encirclement of Russia with military bases, the relentless expansion of NATO, we have gotten the clear impression that they are testing our strength," Medvedev said.

He announced deployment of the short-range missiles as a military response to U.S. plans to deploy missile-defense facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic former Soviet satellites that are now NATO members.

Speaking just hours after Obama was declared the victor in the U.S. presidential election, Medvedev said he hoped the incoming administration will take steps to improve badly damaged U.S. ties with Russia. He suggested it is up to the U.S. not the Kremlin to seek to improve relations.

"I stress that we have no problem with the American people, no inborn anti-Americanism. And we hope that our partners, the U.S. administration, will make a choice in favor of full-fledged relations with Russia," Medvedev said.

Tension in Russian-American relations has been driven to a post-Cold War high by Moscow's war with U.S. ally Georgia.

On the financial crisis, Medvedev said overconfidence in American dominance after the collapse of the Soviet Union "led the U.S. authorities to major mistakes in the economic sphere." The administration ignored warnings and harmed itself and others by "blowing up a money bubble to stimulate its own growth," he said.

Medvedev said the president's tenure should be lengthened to six years to enable the government to more effectively implement reforms. He said the term of the parliament also should be extended by a year to five years, and that parliament's power must be increased by requiring the Cabinet to report to lawmakers regularly.

The proposals were Medvedev's first major initiative to amend the constitution since he was elected in March to succeed his longtime mentor Vladimir Putin.

Putin, who is now prime minister and has not ruled out a return to the Kremlin in the future, has favored increasing the presidential term.

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Associated Press Writers Vladimir Isachenkov and Lynn Berry contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_medvedev

Posted by Almostout 2008-11-05 12:56|| 2008-11-05 12:56|| Front Page Top

#38 Steve White,
That's why I phrased it the way I did. I don't expect an invasion of Taiwan; more of "Let me make you a deal...." kind of approach with a military build up just sort of happening (no connection of course).

Poland will be left out to dry (again) by Europe so Russia will gain de facto control and of course there's always the natural gas weapon.

NATO will be history as anything other than a contract house for the UN.

Posted by AlanC 2008-11-05 13:09|| 2008-11-05 13:09|| Front Page Top

#39 Poland will be left out to dry (again) by Europe so Russia will gain de facto control and of course there's always the natural gas weapon.

You can't really expect the EU to risk its neck for Poland. There are two kinds of territorial entities - provinces/states and countries. If you want to remain a country, you need to acquire the infrastructure to defend yourself instead of waiting for handouts from Uncle Sam, which is what Poland has done.

What Uncle Sam has been doing for 60-odd years - military welfare - is unsustainable. We can bear the financial and human costs, but why should we have to? What we've been providing for so many decades is the military equivalent of universal health care, with one significant difference - we are pretty much the only country that pays into the system. That can no longer fly.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-11-05 14:21|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-11-05 14:21|| Front Page Top

#40 I disagree. NATO will be used to weigh down the US and prevent us from taking direct action.

Posted by lotp 2008-11-05 14:21|| 2008-11-05 14:21|| Front Page Top

#41 ZF I agree with you up to a point, BUT, Poland is a member of the EU and it did supply troops to help us out in Iraq.

They deserve the support of their ???????? What is the EU again? Russia could walk to the Channel and not have a finger raised against them by any of the "Old" European nati......What is the EU again?

Posted by AlanC 2008-11-05 16:11|| 2008-11-05 16:11|| Front Page Top

#42 lotp I see a distinction without a difference. The US will be weighed down and prevented from taking decisive action by making NATO a de facto UN surrogate. We ARE NATO as far as actual capability goes.

Posted by AlanC 2008-11-05 16:13|| 2008-11-05 16:13|| Front Page Top

#43 What I meant was that if NATO were formally disbanded it would leave us theoretically free to act without long and fruitless attempts to gain European cooperation. If it remains it is an 'entangling alliance' of little use except to make sure we cannot act easily or effectively.

Posted by lotp 2008-11-05 16:53|| 2008-11-05 16:53|| Front Page Top

#44 (I think we're in violent agreement ... LOL)

Posted by lotp 2008-11-05 16:55|| 2008-11-05 16:55|| Front Page Top

#45 Look at the bright side. John McCain will never be president.

Posted by Spike Elmith6361 2008-11-05 18:27|| 2008-11-05 18:27|| Front Page Top

#46 If I were Poland I'd be trying to make close friends with a bunch of other Central European states. Do not allow Western states in to avoid provoking the Russians. Do not let ex Soviet states in to avoid provoking the Russians. I'd call my alliance the Buffer states. I'd buy Russian gear as well so they saw me as a customer and not a challenge. I'd concentrate on defense weapons and fortifications. I'd volunteer my voluntary military for UN peacekeeping to ensure they were experienced (I'd be on the Ethiopian plan where I get paid for sending my troops).

I'd make the alliance a free-trade zone as well (anyone want to join that is welcome).

I think such a move would guarantee the Russians left the region alone.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-11-05 20:45|| 2008-11-05 20:45|| Front Page Top

#47 We've made the same error repeatedly - with Dole, with Bush I and Bush II:

The GOP blue-bloods keep picking the candidate over the principles of the party, instead of the man to fit the principles.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-11-05 22:52|| 2008-11-05 22:52|| Front Page Top

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