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2008-12-24 Caribbean-Latin America

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Posted by john frum 2008-12-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 Brazil has signed an 8.6bn euro ($12bn; £8.2bn) defence deal with France to buy 50 helicopters and five submarines.

So why does Brazil need subs? Their greatest application in the 20th Century was as a anti-commerce weapon. Hello, Hugo, if you can't move the tankers out, you can't sell the crap. So, keep up the 'piss'n off the neighbors' routine. You'll find even a modest capability of interdiction will require a massive amount of capital to develop effective anti-sub warfare abilities.

Posted by P2k on holiday 2008-12-24 07:13|| 2008-12-24 07:13|| Front Page Top

#2
So why does Brazil need subs?

For the same reason Germany needed Dreadnoughts.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-12-24 07:52|| 2008-12-24 07:52|| Front Page Top

#3 They got a Kaiser? :)

Posted by P2k on holiday 2008-12-24 08:07|| 2008-12-24 08:07|| Front Page Top

#4 It's all finally coming OUT!

Posted by Besoeker 2008-12-24 08:10|| 2008-12-24 08:10|| Front Page Top

#5 Brazil announced their intention to acquire a small sub fleet shortly after major oil deposits were discovered off their coast.

Posted by lotp 2008-12-24 08:23|| 2008-12-24 08:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Spending the money before they have sold the oil. Sounds familiar.

Posted by Hellfish 2008-12-24 08:53|| 2008-12-24 08:53|| Front Page Top

#7 They've had subs for years.... aircraft carriers too.

Posted by .5MT 2008-12-24 09:48|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-12-24 09:48|| Front Page Top

#8 Actually, it is a smart move to keep the oil and commerce safe from smaller but more aggressive neighbors. Also helps with anti-pirate and anti-drug operations.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-12-24 10:08|| 2008-12-24 10:08|| Front Page Top

#9 Look at all the places with oil that appear to have civil wars with outside sponsorship, as if there's a conspiracy to keep certain countries from producing or even from doing too much exploration.

(Off the top of my head: Nigeria, Columbia, Ecuador, Peru...)

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-12-24 10:33|| 2008-12-24 10:33|| Front Page Top

#10 So to make a long story short, if I discovered as much oil as Brazil just did over the past couple of years I would be looking to find ways to insure it.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-12-24 10:36|| 2008-12-24 10:36|| Front Page Top

#11 You have to be careful with those sub fleets. Russia's had a big fleet for a long time but lately they seem to be developing more of the kind that stay submerged 100% of the time, and that is not the kind of submarine fleet you want.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2008-12-24 10:49|| 2008-12-24 10:49|| Front Page Top

#12 They've had subs for years.... aircraft carriers too.

Fixed it.

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Omolush9919 2008-12-24 20:58|| 2008-12-24 20:58|| Front Page Top

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