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2009-10-16 Home Front: Culture Wars

Chicago High School To Open Day Care Center for Student's Children

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-10-16 11:20|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Officials say a variety of factors are to blame.

Is thatn what kids call it these days?

Posted by Ebbaise Scourge of the Jutes6019 2009-10-16 12:04|| 2009-10-16 12:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Is "Community Organizing" a factor?

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2009-10-16 12:41|| 2009-10-16 12:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Not mentioned: Get pregnant and
Obama's gonna pay for your mortgage.
Obama's gonna pay for your car.
Obama's gonna pay for your groceries.

Posted by ed 2009-10-16 12:44|| 2009-10-16 12:44|| Front Page Top

#4 About one in eight girls at Robeson High School are pregnant.

Considering there are 45 months from the start of 9th grade til graduation, that means 5/8 of the girls are pregnant (ignoring multiples and dropouts) during high school.

Posted by ed 2009-10-16 12:54|| 2009-10-16 12:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Not on Morrow's turf. "We're not looking at them like 'Ooh you made a mistake,'" he said. "We're looking at how we can get them to the next phase, how can we still get them thinking about graduation?"

I think I see one of the contributing factors right there. No accountability. Get Preggers and the government and Robeson High School will take care of all your needs. Baby == GoldenTicket

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-10-16 13:02|| 2009-10-16 13:02|| Front Page Top

#6 Be as unhappy as you want, if we don't help the young women it's the babies that suffer.

I for one won't allow innocent babies to suffer.

No one is happy about teen pregnancy. I'd like to see better abstinence programs, better home education (better home life for these young women), and a better push to get young men and women to think about their futures and not just on rutting.

Anybody know how to do that? I sure don't.

The school officials are stuck, and I don't blame them in their response. It's better to get the young women back into school somehow and get a diploma. Better for them and better in the long term for society.

Posted by Steve White 2009-10-16 13:23|| 2009-10-16 13:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Paying for birth control, preferably for the implants, beginning in middle school when they become sexually active despite all the talk in the world, would be one expenditure that would be cost-cutting in the long run.

Posted by Zorba Slamble4371 2009-10-16 13:31|| 2009-10-16 13:31|| Front Page Top

#8 You don't allow babies making babies to move out of mom's flat on the taxpayer's dime. You don't pay for her independent living and love shack for new teen mommy and boyfriend. And if you want, it's for the children. Both the baby and teen mother are better off living with grandma. Pay for formula if you want, but not the apartment, car, groceries and a 40 oz.

Posted by ed 2009-10-16 13:43|| 2009-10-16 13:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Obviously 'human trafficing' isn't a big deal in Chicago. In fact, it pays quite well.

Posted by Besoeker in Duitsland 2009-10-16 14:23|| 2009-10-16 14:23|| Front Page Top

#10 I agree with Dr. Steve, with the following addendum: make all the pregnant girls, and the baby daddies (I do so hate that term!!!!) take an intensive practical trade course so they can support the child by means of a paying job when they graduate, stripping the academics down to the classes necessary to graduate. And connect the trade school with union apprenticeships and jobs following graduation. The kids can do the college thing later, once the babies are in elementary school and don't need as much attention.

I'm sure a good community organizer can figure out the details to make it work.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-10-16 14:38|| 2009-10-16 14:38|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm with you Steve, It's the babies to suffer for teen pregnacies. One of the problems is that there is no stigma or shame anymore when a girl gets pregnant (or a guy knocks a girl up - it may even be a badge of honor...).

But you shouldn't tell the mother (or father) "Oh - its not your fault! You did nothing wrong.". It is their fault (except in the case of rape of course) - particularly when there is a zillion ways to prevent it.

You help them - oh yes - particularly the child. I've done that before - more than once.

But you don't let the parents off the hook either.

And you don't promote a culture which idolizes men (and yes women) who are so irresponsible. Like Hollywood and the pop-culture/rap seem to do today.

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-10-16 15:08|| 2009-10-16 15:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Thank you TW, and I accept your friendly amendment :-)

It's not about letting the young people 'off the hook'. Baby Mama figures out that her life has changed irrevocably right around the time of delivery, and every moment thereafter.

I'd like to see Baby Daddy be responsible, but the ways we have of doing that these days don't seem to work. I don't see our society hauling a few hundred thousand baby daddies to prison or even the stocks. I don't see our society shaming young men -- one can argue that it's a shame we don't, but society has changed and I'm not interested in tilting at windmills.

So while it might have been a whopping mistake to create a baby whilst doing the horizontal tango, the baby is there and you have to figure out what to do.

Get baby Mama to finish her diploma. Find a job for her, even if it's data entry or entry retail. Get her moving in the trades or practical work; as TW said, she can work on moving up and doing better as the baby grows. But she needs a job, and she'll need help be it from Grandma or the local school or Uncle Sugar.

The one thing I don't let her do is let her sit at home collecting a check and figuring out how many more babies she's going to have. I want to her to have help, and I want society to help, but she has to work. That means education, job training, help with daycare, and a boot in the seat of the pants at any sign of slack-o-tude.

If baby mama can't find a job, no problem, we'll help with food, housing and basic medical -- but in return she gets a rake and cleans up the local park. Five days a week. Eventually she'll find a way to do better. And in the meantime we'll have a clean park, and she'll have some pride in having cleaned it.

I know, I know, I'm a Neanderthal. Charles Johnson would call me a racist.

Posted by Steve White 2009-10-16 15:29|| 2009-10-16 15:29|| Front Page Top

#13 They don't sell condoms in Chicago?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-10-16 15:34|| 2009-10-16 15:34|| Front Page Top

#14 I for one won't allow innocent babies to suffer.

Well, they're going to. Unless you take them away from the mother and put them into an orphanage until they're adopted. Run DNA analysis to determine the father. Put a lifetime 10% surcharge on his income tax. Sterilize the mother. If you aren't willing to consider that or something equally draconian, the problem will continue to grow. The intolerable must be treated intolerably.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-10-16 16:03|| 2009-10-16 16:03|| Front Page Top

#15 Let's hope America doesn't ever agree with you, Nimble. That's not an America I want to live in.

Posted by Steve White 2009-10-16 16:20|| 2009-10-16 16:20|| Front Page Top

#16 Then you're going to live in an America that hosts more and more illegitimate children, both absolutely and relatively, being brought up in poverty, moral as well as material, in families without fathers paid for by fewer and fewer people who are penalized for following the rules of civilization by paying for those who don't. That is becoming the America you do live in. Two unappetizing alternatives. One temporary, one permanent.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-10-16 16:45|| 2009-10-16 16:45|| Front Page Top

#17

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Posted by rectum brown">rectum brown 2009-10-16 16:53|| 2009-10-16 16:53|| Front Page Top

#18 I suggest that in extremely irresponsible cases, the Baby Momma, Baby Daddy, AND Baby Momma/Daddy's Momma & Daddy get sent to live on a spartan communal work farm in Montana or Idaho - to isolate their malign influence on others, and to minimize their burden on the rest of society.

No more fancy city living for you! Get out in the fields and pull some weeds. A guard with a shotgun and sunglasses on a horse would complete the picture nicely.

(I know, I'm bad. Just let me enjoy my little fantasy scenario).

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-10-16 17:51|| 2009-10-16 17:51|| Front Page Top

#19 Incubation for future democrat voters.

Posted by newc">newc 2009-10-16 18:01|| 2009-10-16 18:01|| Front Page Top

#20 Must have been some huge celebration 9 or so months ago for all these kids to go off abstinence at the same time. I mean, it's almost like they believed SOMETHING happened that made it so all the worries in the world would pass them over!

Posted by Charles 2009-10-16 20:15|| 2009-10-16 20:15|| Front Page Top

#21 not a black or city thing... high school kids and the end of school... rabbits don't have anything on kids alone at home while momma is working.

we live in a fairly conservative country town in the south. my son's high school has about 20 infants/toddlers in day care and this is a smaller school than the one in Chicago... it is a 'get to move out on your own' thing for a lot of the girls... "mama and daddy are mean.. they have rules... i'm gonna go get me a baby and move into a DFACs house where i can do what i want." school has devoted counselors to help the girls get the paperwork started soon as the test is positive"

/puke

Posted by abu do you love ">abu do you love 2009-10-16 21:42|| 2009-10-16 21:42|| Front Page Top

#22 Science Czar John Holdren's point about putting contraceptives in the drinking water.....

Posted by Skunky Glins****">Skunky Glins**** 2009-10-16 22:58|| 2009-10-16 22:58|| Front Page Top

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