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2010-03-23 India-Pakistan

Why Hyderabad is a breeding ground for jihad

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Posted by ryuge 2010-03-23 07:39|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 40% of population is Muslim

They cant integrate, and dont want to .. Thats why Hydrabad is a breeding ground for jihad and "new gen jihad" > see its IT infrastructure and major FTSE companies investing into it. To me thats a worrying undertone

No excuses , no exceptions , no flowery prose . Its all about the demographics

Posted by Oscar 2010-03-23 09:57|| 2010-03-23 09:57|| Front Page Top

#2 Its all about the demographics
Posted by Oscar

And not just in Hyderabad.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-03-23 10:00|| 2010-03-23 10:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Hyderabad is a major technological centre in India for telecom. It is in the center part of India, not in the north. If Jihad is forming there then India is in trouble.

Posted by Beldar Threreling9726 2010-03-23 10:13|| 2010-03-23 10:13|| Front Page Top

#4 When I visited Hyderabad a decade ago they had riots in the Old city. I got the impression the Old City was very Muslim and never assimilated. The presences of massive and very cool ruins of Gul Cunda (Spelling?) fort probably makes things worse as it reminds them on a daily basis that Muslims once ran things.

Things aren't just bad, they are Hyderabad.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-03-23 10:49|| 2010-03-23 10:49|| Front Page Top

#5 That would be Golkunda Fortress I was talking about. Really enjoyed the Spy Who Loved Me style laser light show, the billions of bats, and of course the jihadist Mosquitos that seemed to seek me out in the crowd.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-03-23 10:53|| 2010-03-23 10:53|| Front Page Top

#6 @ #2 TWO POINTS - for 'bad' joke! LOL

The Indians tried to solve their muzzie problem by allowing the creation of Pakistan. India activly encouraged Indian muzzies to emigrate to Pakistan and many did. India only works if there is at least a 70% Hindu majority. Too many muzzies always results in increased violence.

...ie..

Recently I was introduced to a book called Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. In it Dr Peter Hammond has some interesting things to say about the current strategy of the Islamic world to dominate countries with its radical religion.

He briefly takes us on a tour to see what happens to the host nation as the population of Muslim members increases from 2% to 100%

Here are a few exerts.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally divers e societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as we ll. Heres how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States Muslim 0.6%
Australia Muslim 1.5%
Canada Muslim 1.9%
China Muslim 1.8%
Italy Muslim 1.5%
Norway Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark Muslim 2%
Germany Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom Muslim 2.7%
Spain Muslim 4%
Thailand Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France Muslim 8%
Philippines Muslim 5%
Sweden Muslim 5%
Switzerland Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films ab out Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana Muslim 10%
India Muslim 13.4%
Israel Muslim 16%
Kenya Muslim 10%
Russia Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia&nbs p; Muslim 40%
Chad Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania Muslim 70%
Malaysia Muslim 60.4%
Qatar Muslim 77.5%
Sudan Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh Muslim 83%
Egypt Muslim 90%
Gaza Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia Muslim 86.1%
Iran Muslim 98%
Iraq< Muslim 97%
Jordan Muslim 92%
Morocco Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan Muslim 97%
Palestine Muslim 99%
Syria Muslim 90%
Tajikistan Muslim 90%
Turkey Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of Dar-es-Salaam the Islamic House of Peace. Here theres supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia Muslim 100%
Somalia Muslim 100%
Yemen Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. Leon Uris, The Haj

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Todays 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the worlds population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the worlds population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammonds book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Posted by Mike Hunt 2010-03-23 11:36|| 2010-03-23 11:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Behold the tide of diversity. Thank you Mr. Hunt.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-03-23 11:39|| 2010-03-23 11:39|| Front Page Top

#8 oops ...it was #4 I meant.
@ #4 TWO POINTS - for 'bad' joke! LOL

Posted by Mike Hunt 2010-03-23 11:46|| 2010-03-23 11:46|| Front Page Top

#9 At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

All ready happened in the UK!Thanks Labour!

Posted by Paul2 2010-03-23 13:26|| 2010-03-23 13:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Todays 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the worlds population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the worlds population by the end of this century.

I don't know... birth rates are falling drastically in Third World countries, including the Muslim world. Within the Palestinian territories alone I understand that the population numbers are short by about 1 million of the number the authorities claim -- due entirely to birthrate separate from violent death or out-migration. See this dramatic representation of birth rates and life expectancies around the world. And there is also quiet out-conversion and general apostasy from Islam, some quoting numbers like 6 million per year although I've no idea how accurate that it, and the much higher level of violence resulting in death in the Muslim world.

Finally, in Israel at least the Jews from the Muslim world have a birth rate comparable to the Muslims in the countries they came from, as do the Christians in sub-Saharan Africa. In the Western world the birth rate differential is still real at this point, particularly in Europe, but Europeans were busy depopulating themselves long before there was an issue with Muslim subpopulations.

Posted by trailing wife on the other computer 2010-03-23 14:45|| 2010-03-23 14:45|| Front Page Top

#11 >Mike Hunt

Cool theory, bro, but not backed up with what I've seen and experienced.

For example, Albania. I have spent a significant amount of time in the country, AND I HAVE NOT BEEN IN A EUROPEAN COUNTRY THAT IS MORE PRO-U.S., and pro-West. Not one. There are friggin' American, and NATO flags flying on virtually every block.
If you are an American in Albania, you are treated like a rock star. And the Albanian I questioned about it where visibly pained about some of the jihad shenanigans in Bosnia and Kosovo.

If I had to live in an Arab country (and believe me, I have no desire - (shakes magic 8-ball) it would be Morocco.

It's easy to slot Muslim countries like NCAA basketball seeds, but the truth is a lot more complicated.

Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2010-03-23 16:02|| 2010-03-23 16:02|| Front Page Top

#12 sorry mizzou ...not my theory.
(From above) Recently I was introduced to a book called Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. In it Dr Peter Hammond has some interesting things to say about the current strategy of the Islamic world to dominate countries with its radical religion.

And maybe your experience in Albania is different than the esteemed Doctor author.
My experiences living in 2 Asian and 1 middle eastern country seems about right with his assertions.
Glad to find out Albania likes us!

Posted by Mike Hunt 2010-03-23 16:44|| 2010-03-23 16:44|| Front Page Top

#13 Mike, I never said it was your idea. I read your post. But I think the thesis is simplistic, that's all.

Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2010-03-23 17:13|| 2010-03-23 17:13|| Front Page Top

#14 @ mizzou.. sorry guy, I thought from your remarks that you thought I had written the whole post.
I was merely pointing out that I was not the author.

no problem guy. it's all good

Mikey

Posted by Mike Hunt 2010-03-23 21:38|| 2010-03-23 21:38|| Front Page Top

#15 ION NEWS KERALA > ISLAMIST EXTREMISTS CAN DESTABILIZE BANGLADESH, despite such Radicals comprising only tiny minority widin Bangla's Muslim population.

IOW, BANGLA ISLAMISTS' LACK OF NUMBERS doth NOT underly any LACK OF POTENCY = THREAT AGZ THE MAIN GOVT.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-03-23 21:42|| 2010-03-23 21:42|| Front Page Top

#16 TOPIX > AL QAEDA LEADER IN IRAQ: CONTINUE JIHAD [ agz Amer Occupiers + IGA Proxies]. Abu Omar al-Baghdadi.

* DAILYTIMES.PK > {Lahore] AUTHORITIES DECLARE [illegal]AFRICAN NATIONALS "SECURITY THREAT", arguing that said 000 's of African Illegal Residents support lcoal Extremists + Terror Front Orgs.

SAME > HARDLINERS VOW JIHAD TO LIBERATE [Indian] HELD KASHMIR [IHK]. VIOLENT JIHAD IS THE ONLY REAL SOLUTION as assorted Treaties, Talks, + Other Negotiations, etc. have ALL FAILED.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-03-23 21:50|| 2010-03-23 21:50|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm gonna go with: Because it's full of muslims?

Posted by Hellfish 2010-03-23 22:13|| 2010-03-23 22:13|| Front Page Top

#18 This article brings to mind something the wife of the owner of my local Indian foods shop told me about her last visit back home to Bombay (I think) a few years ago. As a young girl she'd loved going to the Muslim section to poke around in the shops and talk to the people there. But this time, the television was full of Muslim religious shows advising the viewers not to befriend the perfidous Hindu kufrs, and when she went to her favourite shops the atmosphere made her very uncomfortable indeed.

Posted by trailing wife on the other computer 2010-03-23 22:45|| 2010-03-23 22:45|| Front Page Top

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