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2010-09-30 Europe

Germany set to pay off last WW1 reparations

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Posted by Beavis 2010-09-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 I thought WWI would never end, and here we are already in the middle of WWIV.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-09-30 03:28|| 2010-09-30 03:28|| Front Page Top

#2 IIRC an old Guinness record book entry stipulated that in the 4000 year of recorded human history, there have only been around 200 years of peace in the civilized world (those keeping records). Sitting behind two massive oceans and without a major threat, other than ourselves, Americans have enjoyed a Disney World existence from the history that others have experienced which alters their perception of 'reality'. Central Europe is now on a Peace Streak that it hasn't experienced since the fall of the Roman Empire. It took the Americans and Soviets sitting on them to get that to happen.

The American Revolution and the French Revolution were fueled by debt accumulated by the ruling class and the methods they sought to address it. Gerd Krumeich, a Great War historian, said that Germans' sense of injustice was stirred by the despised article 231 of the Versailles Treaty, which gave Germany sole blame for the outbreak of the war and forced it to make massive reparation payments. That sense of injustice, he said, was quickly seized upon by Hitler.

Now we're watching another generation of the 'best and brightest' running up unsustainable debt and ignoring warnings of history, because they no longer study real history. Whether it's to win a war at any cost or win the seat of government at any cost, the massive debt at the end of the day will destroy anything you think you may gain. "We burned the village in order to save it."

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-09-30 09:43|| 2010-09-30 09:43|| Front Page Top

#3 Procopius2k: The Apaches and Commanches were raiding and killing peaceful tribes years before the white man settlers (there's that word again) the west bank of the Atlantic Ocean - now known as the east bank of the Pacific Ocean. BTW: up to this very day, if the USA didn't exist, the Hopi and Navaho would resume exterminating each other.
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As for south of the Rio Grande (or Rio Bravo if you prefer) I will not go into the history of the "peaceful" Yaquis, Mayas, and Aztecs...

Posted by borgboy 2010-09-30 16:31|| 2010-09-30 16:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Next in line for German dinero settlements: Did Germany ever pay back Rome (now simply [in more ways than one] Italy for the massacre of Varus's 3 Legions by Arminius (aka "Hermann the German"? If not, why not? Mebbe the debt was voided by the 1930's "Pact of Steel"? Or perhaps since the allies voided the "Pact of Steel", the original debt is still due?

Posted by borgboy 2010-09-30 16:41|| 2010-09-30 16:41|| Front Page Top

#5 Macaulay"s words on the subject: Heap heavier still the fetters, bar closer still the grate; Patient as sheep we yield us up unto your cruel fate. And by the shades beneath us, and by the gods above, Add not unto your cruel hate your still more cruel love........ Spare us the inexpiable wrong, the unutterable shame,That turns the cowards heart to steel, the sluggards blood to flame. Lest when our latest hope is fled ye taste of our despair, And learn by proof, in some wild hour, how much the wretched dare.

Posted by notascrename 2010-09-30 22:48|| 2010-09-30 22:48|| Front Page Top

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