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Yasir Finds one of FBI's GPS Trackers on his Car

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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-10-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 So those things are probably hard to spot. What would have caused them to even look for such a device in the first place?

Posted by crosspatch 2010-10-09 12:08|| 2010-10-09 12:08|| Front Page Top

#2 The cited article & links ID the device as an Orion Guardian ST820 made by Cambion, sold only to mil & LE types. Google search using "Orion Guardian ST820 " gives 665 hits, bulk are related to this article, others are gov't price lists & auction sites for used gear. Cost new $6000, subscription (? 2-year) for its use is about $860.
Story was that he took his car to a mechanic who recognized something unusual attached to the undercarriage & asked Yasir about whether to leave it alone or not. A backyard mechanic with a little knowledge of his vehicle would spot this immediately once vehicle was raised up for inspection.
Device is attached under a vehicle with magnets using method similar to that used by O.J.Simpson's character in movie "The Naked Gun 21/2" Stealthier devices are attached in areas harder to see and directly wired to car battery for longer-term surveillance.
It would be amusing to plant a few thousand dummy devices on vehicles at a CAIR convention & then listen to the uproar.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-10-09 13:49|| 2010-10-09 13:49|| Front Page Top

#3 The new, Orion Guardian ST820XP comes with it's anti-tamper device. Best thing to do is just finish checking the tires, leave it the phuech alone and.... not mention it to anyone. The kill radius is classified. [snark off]

Posted by Besoeker 2010-10-09 13:57|| 2010-10-09 13:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Whether or not the guy should be under surveillance, I don't know.

However, in the case of the FBI putting one of these on a car and it getting found, well, I'd say that qualifies as them giving him a free toy to sell or smash as he chooses. Getting seen or tagged by the person you've got under surveillance is a big huge fail. So for the FBI, this is a $6000, lesson in "How Not To Be Seen!"

Posted by Silentbrick 2010-10-09 15:06|| 2010-10-09 15:06|| Front Page Top

#5 âWe have all the information we needed,â they told him. âYou donât need to call your lawyer. Donât worry, youâre boring.â

Posted by KBK 2010-10-09 17:15|| 2010-10-09 17:15|| Front Page Top

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