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2010-11-24 Home Front: WoT

Next step for body scanners could be trains, boats, metro

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Posted by Steve White 2010-11-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Does The Hill get their crap from InfoWars? /sarc

If the new grope-downs and nekkid scanners weren't enough, this development ought to make Private Eye ecstatic.

Posted by gorb 2010-11-24 00:13|| 2010-11-24 00:13|| Front Page Top

#2 At the frequency those body scanners work at you are risking unzipping DNA...
It sounds like it is potentially more dangerous than the terrorist.
What does it do to a woman's eggs or fetus?

Posted by Water Modem 2010-11-24 00:29|| 2010-11-24 00:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Probably not much. A paper whose link was posted here Monday indicated that pretty much the full dose was trapped in the skin, which also suggests that even though the dose was small, the concentration in the skin was higher than you might think. Scientists have concerns over these effects inducing skin and breast cancer, especially in frequent fliers. Of course, the WH is stiff-arming them in order to protect Americans. I guess risk of non-violent death at our own hands is acceptable vs. violent death at foreign hands.

Oh well, at least Chertoff probably already took his cut.

Posted by gorb 2010-11-24 00:44|| 2010-11-24 00:44|| Front Page Top

#4 Yeah right.
And then what? Shopping malls, cinemas, crowded streets?

I have an idea. Let's wait for global warming, then we can all go nekkid

Posted by European Conservative 2010-11-24 07:52|| 2010-11-24 07:52|| Front Page Top

#5 This must be the Bush fascist police state that I heard about for 8 years, oh wait.....

Posted by Snark 2010-11-24 08:36|| 2010-11-24 08:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Ol' Man-et forgot the highway on-ramps, taxis and my kid's trike.

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2010-11-24 08:51|| 2010-11-24 08:51|| Front Page Top

#7 You know, my feeling is that the Obama Administration isn't just shooting for ending up in jail with nice long jail terms, they're hoping to go out the way of Mussolini.

I kind of like New Jersey's approach of opening these guys up to criminal charges for doing this stuff.

Posted by Silentbrick - Lost Drill Bit Division - Halliburton 2010-11-24 09:00|| 2010-11-24 09:00|| Front Page Top

#8 OK, far enough, seems to me they;d be a whole lot better off issuing each and every flier a gun, loaded with low velocity had rubber bullets, (Goes through people, but not aircraft skin) and seal the pilots area with titanium bulkheads.
Let the terrorist get on, they'll never get off again, except in body bags.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2010-11-24 09:26|| 2010-11-24 09:26|| Front Page Top

#9 You are, of course, assuming their goal is the make it actually safer Redneck.

I don't believe that's the case. This is the same Homeland [in]security secretary who thinks that rednecks, veterans, and tea partiers are more of a threat than Al Quaeda.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-11-24 09:36|| 2010-11-24 09:36|| Front Page Top

#10 This is the same Homeland [in]security secretary who thinks that rednecks, veterans, and tea partiers are more of a threat than Al Quaeda.

At present they probably are. Which ain't sayin' much. :-)

Posted by gorb 2010-11-24 12:33|| 2010-11-24 12:33|| Front Page Top

#11 For 9 years after 9/11 this groping of Americans was not a part of Homeland Security. No hi-jackings or attacks in regards to airlines. Proof beyond doubt that this is not about security.

Therefore, this has everything to do with de-sensitization of the American public to the new regime's grotesque treatment of Americans.

Posted by Hupath Bucket8583 2010-11-24 14:53|| 2010-11-24 14:53|| Front Page Top

#12 Let the terrorist get on, they'll never get off again, except in body bags.
Look, the would-be terrorists of late obviously don't expect to get off the plane alive, whether or not they succeed. They have all been trying to blow themselves up and the plane with it.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-11-24 15:22|| 2010-11-24 15:22|| Front Page Top

#13 The template is al Qaeda, the connection is Islamic jihad, and the map is primarily the Mid-East. Any honest person admits this. Only politically correct people such as yourself claim ignorance and confusion. The rest of us know you people for what you are, liars and fools
This bears repeating because it summarizes the issues perfectly. I'd just leave out "Islamic" since all Jihad is Islamic by definition.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-11-24 15:27|| 2010-11-24 15:27|| Front Page Top

#14 As a fair skinned Australian I have had a lifetime quota of skin damaging radiation and then some. Two skin cancers surgically removed , and in my last three visits to the skin cancer clinic in Sydney I have had 45 pre-cancerous thingys burnt off. No way in the world will I allow a full body x-ray.

Posted by Grunter 2010-11-24 17:17|| 2010-11-24 17:17|| Front Page Top

#15 I would like to know the precise spectrum of the x-rays used in the backscatter systems.

The testicles of a six year old are perhaps half an inch long and very close to the surface.

While most of the energy is dumped in the skin, the rest is deposited at shallow depth.

It's unreasonable to have Compton electrons rattling around the dna in the kid's testes. It's the worst time of life for that.

I would like to know exactly how these machines have been assured to be safe against that risk.

Posted by KBK 2010-11-24 22:09|| 2010-11-24 22:09|| Front Page Top

#16 A valid protest might be to wrap one's jewels in tinfoil.

God help you if the beam gets stuck there, though.

Posted by gorb 2010-11-24 22:23|| 2010-11-24 22:23|| Front Page Top

#17 I suspect the scanners are Tetrahertz scanners.
I could be wrong.
However, I remember my dad - the reverend - burying far too many from the above ground nuclear tests. Nasty cancers without the Soviets firing a shot.

Posted by Water Modem 2010-11-24 22:35|| 2010-11-24 22:35|| Front Page Top

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