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2011 Wars: The 16 Brewing Conflicts To Watch

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Posted by Sherry 2010-12-29 13:32|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Looking over the list one can't help wondering if many of these places might not be better off with a civil war than they are now.

Posted by Spock the Ruthless6200 2010-12-29 16:01|| 2010-12-29 16:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Or at least no different.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-12-29 16:12|| 2010-12-29 16:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Also, many of those places on the list have a long history of civil war and violence and it isn't a surprise to see them on it.

Posted by DarthVader 2010-12-29 16:30|| 2010-12-29 16:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Hopefully the United States can eventually extricate itself from the current conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq and sit a few of these future wars out. I would especially not like to see any involvement in African and sub-Saharan conflicts or "Peace Keeping" efforts.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-12-29 16:38|| 2010-12-29 16:38|| Front Page Top

#5 I wonder if old people in Africa, it least in parts that belonged to Brits, remember the Colonial times as the Golden Era?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-12-29 16:47|| 2010-12-29 16:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Read the title and thought there was an upcoming beer shortage!

Posted by Skidmark 2010-12-29 16:48|| 2010-12-29 16:48|| Front Page Top

#7 I doubt it g(r)om. Revisionist history continues to construct a wall of denial regarding the African colonial period. What good could possibly come from learning to read and write, Christianity, agriculture, or mining and industry? Clearly, these are all western methods of exploitation.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-12-29 16:55|| 2010-12-29 16:55|| Front Page Top

#8 What why I said old people, visitor.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-12-29 16:57|| 2010-12-29 16:57|| Front Page Top

#9

Please add 'modern medicine' to #7.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-12-29 16:58|| 2010-12-29 16:58|| Front Page Top

#10 Unless modern medicine comes with modern agriculture, it's the biggest killer of them all, Besoeker. Most conflicts have their roots in overpopulation.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-12-29 17:02|| 2010-12-29 17:02|| Front Page Top

#11 g(r)omjie:

Along the mud filled trek of man and civilization, I suspect the white man is to Africa, what the Jew is to Europe. Into your pipe with that one!

Posted by Besoeker 2010-12-29 17:03|| 2010-12-29 17:03|| Front Page Top

#12 Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Posted by P2kontheroad 2010-12-29 17:06|| 2010-12-29 17:06|| Front Page Top

#13 #11 I know you meant this in a positive way, Besoeker---but given the state of Europe today, I'd rather give credit to Romans.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-12-29 17:12|| 2010-12-29 17:12|| Front Page Top

#14 Hardly an original thought on my part g(r)om. Someone sent me this old article today. It's pretty easy to find on-line:

The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15 2008. It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.

REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz ... We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ..

Posted by Besoeker 2010-12-29 17:28|| 2010-12-29 17:28|| Front Page Top

#15 Besoeker, your old article has been circulating for even longer than that. It was originally published here in 2004, apparently under a pseudonym. The blogger Planck's Constant did a nice write-up on the piece in 2006 here. As he points out, others have thought similarly.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-29 17:53|| 2010-12-29 17:53|| Front Page Top

#16 PIMF! As he points out, too,

Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-29 17:56|| 2010-12-29 17:56|| Front Page Top

#17 Notice something is missing in that list of Gifts---something western civ. got from Romans?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-12-29 17:57|| 2010-12-29 17:57|| Front Page Top

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