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2011-06-19 China-Japan-Koreas
Soros Says that China is Going Down, and You've Missed the Short Opportunity Already
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Posted by Griting Smith6978 2011-06-19 07:40|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 So, the 'expert' economists of China are no better than the 'expert' economists of the West. Why am I not surprised? /rhet question
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-06-19 10:47||   2011-06-19 10:47|| Front Page Top

#2 The difference is that in China, the academic "experts" run the economy by means of government control of the markets via regulation.

Oh wait... Damn. We're screwed.
Posted by OldSpook 2011-06-19 11:07||   2011-06-19 11:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Hubby is exposed to the mfg. side of things & he told me, some r coming home, getting the hell outta there. Too costly.
Posted by anonymous2u 2011-06-19 12:07||   2011-06-19 12:07|| Front Page Top

#4 you've missed the short opportunity already

No I didn't! ;-}
Posted by Frozen Al 2011-06-19 13:43||   2011-06-19 13:43|| Front Page Top

#5 anonymous2u, could you expound on that a little bit? I'd be interested in knowing more from someone who actually knows something (as opposed to the "experts" who are usually wrong). Thnx.
Posted by Barbara 2011-06-19 15:25||   2011-06-19 15:25|| Front Page Top

#6 If China starts to go down, they are going to call in IOUs.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-06-19 16:27||   2011-06-19 16:27|| Front Page Top

#7  So, the 'expert' economists of China are no better than the 'expert' economists of the West.

The conclusion to draw from this is that state-planned economies suck. Just ask Hayek! (Friedrich, not Selma, I mean)
Posted by SteveS 2011-06-19 17:45||   2011-06-19 17:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Soros Says that China is Going Down, and You've Missed the Short Opportunity Already

Oh my. I wonder what's going to happen to all the billion-plus bumps on their economic road.
Posted by gorb 2011-06-19 17:49||   2011-06-19 17:49|| Front Page Top

#9 "Friedrich, not Selma, I mean"

I dunno, Steve - there's always a possibility that Salma knows more that the so-called "experts."

(Of course, so does a rock.)
Posted by Barbara 2011-06-19 17:50||   2011-06-19 17:50|| Front Page Top

#10 Barbara, Friedrich would say that Selma knows more about localized economic information and conditions related specifically to Selma Hayek than does any given team of trained and credentialed experts. Unless, of course, that team of trained and credentialed experts have complete access to all of Selma's financial information, intentions, plans, & expectations, *AND* the time and attention required to process that information in a timely manner.

A Selma Hayek *might* be able to afford that team of obsessively informed and dedicated trained experts, but lord knows few others do, and the emphasis has to be on experts *employed* by the economic individual. Elsewise you've blown right past "principal-agent problem" into out-right predatory interference, known by the rest of us as a full-blown hostile audit.
Posted by Mitch H.  2011-06-19 19:29|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/  2011-06-19 19:29|| Front Page Top

#11 If China sells USD, they will buy commodities further stoking inflation.
Posted by phil_b 2011-06-19 22:11||   2011-06-19 22:11|| Front Page Top

#12 PEOPLE'S DAILY FORUM > {Munk Debates] KISSINGER: CHINA WILL NOT DOMINATE THE CURRENT CENTURY.

ARTIC = Over the next decade [2011-2021 = 2020-2030?], China is likely to be pre-occupied balancing its political instutions wid its economic changes, CHINA = "PREMATURE" POWER.

NIAL FERGUSON = disagrees wid Henry Kissinger in that he believes that most of the past centuries had been China's save for the 19th + 20th centuries.

* SAME > CHINA "WALKING A FINE LINE" IN DEALING WID NORTH KOREA: EXPERT [Jonathan Pollock of the Brookings Institute]. China comprises the bulk of the DPRK's foreign trade while is also wary of the DPRK's NUCLEAR INTENTIONS, i.e. dev of potent NucWeaps capabilities that can be used
asmuch agz China as any other State.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM [old = May 2011] > CHINA IS "DOOMED" ACCORDING TO [US SecState]HILLARY CLINTON | HILLARY CLINTON: CHINA'S SYSTEM IS DOOMED, LEADERS ON A "FOOL'S ERRAND", vee hardline internal oppos to vital Democratic + Human Rights reforms as symbolized by the troubled Arab-Muslim Govts, Monarchies = "Jasmine" Uprisings in the Middle East + North AFrica.

The main thing wrong in the above Aertics is that CHINA = BEIJING + CPC BELIEVE THEIR METHODS CAN - they are NOT willing to wait until 2080-2100 to achieve their [post-US = Sole] "Manifest Destiny". CHINA WANTS IT NOW - ASAP AMAP ALAP ATAP 2050-2080/2100, + NOT TAKING "NO" FOR AN ANSWER.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-06-19 23:35||   2011-06-19 23:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Mil Conflicts aside, what can trip Rising China up is the same as can trip the US up, i.e. LACK OF "UNIVERSAL" GOVT, PERT CONSENSUS AS PER GLOBAL WARMING-CLIMATE CHANGE, + ESPEC "PEAK EVERYTHING".

The current + future State of the World's major resources, espec as per support for DEEP SPACE TRAVEL, EXPLORATION + COLONIZATION, WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF [post-Nationalist, SOvereign]OWG-NWO TO BEGIN WITH.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-06-19 23:43||   2011-06-19 23:43|| Front Page Top

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