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2011-12-24 Britain

What if: The Day Argentina Retook the Falklands

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Posted by Beavis 2011-12-24 08:21|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 The Argies can't take the islands as long as the Brits have the will to defend them. Which is, of course, what this is all about.

Posted by Steve White 2011-12-24 12:56|| 2011-12-24 12:56|| Front Page Top

#2 I think the Brits lack a Navy anymore - the Argentine Nsvy and Airforce is probably larger, anymore.

Posted by OldSpook 2011-12-24 13:29|| 2011-12-24 13:29|| Front Page Top

#3 The big issue is air cover. If they don't get more air cover to the Falklands now they'll be unable to do so after any shooting starts. In the last war they had a carrier and a large tanker that they converted to a carrier for Harriers. Now they have no carrier at all, since they retired HMS Ocean and the new carriers have yet to (and likely will never) be built.

A submarine loitering in the region would also help.

But I'd get a squadron of modern aircraft in: Typhoons, or even Tornado GR4s. They aren't really needed in Europe after all so it makes sense to deploy them. Yes, it's a logistical strain of the first order, but the Argies need a clear signal: look all you want but don't touch.

I'd also get a modern anti-air battery in, and some high quality ground forces. The latter need not be overly numerous, but rotating in a battalion of Paras or infantry, with logistics, along with a few squads of SAS or other special forces, would certainly let the Argies now that there would not be such a thing as a quick snatch of the islands.

How to pay for this? Let the oil exploration continue and put a small tax on whatever is pumped out from the sea bed in the economic zone.

Posted by Steve White 2011-12-24 14:16|| 2011-12-24 14:16|| Front Page Top

#4 And as it turns out, my drivel is well preceded by this Wiki source that outlines the Falklands defense. They have naval and infantry assets as well as an air presence. The only thing I'd add is a few more Typhoons.

I should read more before I comment.

Posted by Steve White 2011-12-24 14:26|| 2011-12-24 14:26|| Front Page Top

#5 They have a total of four combat aircraft present on the islands. A couple squadrons would be much better.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-12-24 14:29|| 2011-12-24 14:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Sure. It's a combination of the limits of their budget, the logistics and what they perceive the threat to be. They have intel that you and I certainly don't have so perhaps they know that the Argies can't do much.

Posted by Steve White 2011-12-24 14:41|| 2011-12-24 14:41|| Front Page Top

#7 From Walter Russell Meade: Britain Defiant On The Falklands

Posted by newc 2011-12-24 16:25|| 2011-12-24 16:25|| Front Page Top

#8 Ok, who's more likely to actually drill & pump this oil?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-12-24 17:22|| 2011-12-24 17:22|| Front Page Top

#9 ..the Chinese.

Posted by P2Kontheroad 2011-12-24 17:40|| 2011-12-24 17:40|| Front Page Top

#10 'This week Argentinas claim to the Falklands has been powerfully reinforced, declared an article in the Guardian yesterday. Apparently, the political climate in Latin American countries has changed in favour of the Argentine claim, so we should consider consigning the Falklanders to the mercies of a nation they fear and despise. This may strike you as peculiar reasoning, but perhaps things will become clearer if I tell you that the article is by Richard Gott. Thats the same Richard Gott who, while on the staff of the Guardian, received expenses from the Soviet Union red gold, as he put it in return for well, that has never been clear. I would have thought Gotts views on sovereignty were compromised, to say the least, but then this is the paper that just ran an article giving Václav Havel a good kicking for undervaluing the achievements of Communism.

Posted by Pappy 2011-12-24 18:15|| 2011-12-24 18:15|| Front Page Top

#11 If Argentina was smart they'd take over the islands diplomatically. Position the conflict as a colonial issue to fool the rubes that barely pay attention to politics but still feel guilty over colonial remnants. They would then offer to allow the locals to stay if they wanted as English ex-patriots and give mineral rights for a set amount of time to the UK.

This would (a) appear totally peaceful and convince a lot of westerners to side with Argentina against the evil colonials. It would also being the de armament process in the Falklands and allow the UK to begin any mining operations.

Posted by rjschwarz 2011-12-24 19:48|| 2011-12-24 19:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Since I have been there (last February) and have lived in Argentina. NO WAY. LOL.

This would be a blood bath of the highest order. Dream on.

Posted by Jack is Back! 2011-12-24 20:40|| 2011-12-24 20:40|| Front Page Top

#13 What Jack said.

Posted by newc 2011-12-24 23:27|| 2011-12-24 23:27|| Front Page Top

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