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2013-08-14 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Louisana police cure Fuaed Abdo Ahmed of mental illness at bank.

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Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-14 07:32|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Louisiana is a large state. What city?

Posted by OCCD 2013-08-14 10:15|| 2013-08-14 10:15|| Front Page Top

#2 OK. St. Joseph, LA. I had to resort to the Huffington Post to find out.

Posted by OCCD 2013-08-14 10:24|| 2013-08-14 10:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Some little place on the Mississippi River in the northern part of the state.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-08-14 10:32|| 2013-08-14 10:32|| Front Page Top

#4 Unfortunately, there are only two options for dealing with violent schizophrenics. This is the second one. The first is to commit them to a locked psychiatric hospital with forced medication. Unfortunately, most psychiatric hospitals were closed during the Reagan presidency, and the residents ended up on the streets; and then the laws everywhere require those legally adult to formally accept any offered treatment -- treatment can only be forced if lives are in imminent danger, where imminent is defined as "he just killed Grandma with a knife, and we fear he might kill the rest of us," as happened to a girlfriend of mine earlier this year. But many schizophrenics are unable to grasp that their mental experience is abnormal, so refuse treatment.

My girlfriend's son is now being treated in a locked psychiatric hospital, the one they had been trying desperately for two years to get him committed to so that he wouldn't kill his grandmother, which everyone on the county mental health team agreed was a strong probability. And now that he is responding to the medication, they are preparing for his murder trial, though he still believes he only stuck the knife in a corpse.

Death by cop might have been kinder.

Posted by trailing wife 2013-08-14 11:44|| 2013-08-14 11:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Death by cop might have been kinder.
"Live free or kill" seems to be the rationale behind the current treatment of the insane who seem (to the sane anyway) to be at risk of going on a killing spree.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-08-14 12:03|| 2013-08-14 12:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Many times I tried to commit my late wife to a psychiatric hospital such as TW mentions. Most times she refused to go or, she would check herself out after the Docs assertained she was not actively suicidal.

We exhausted all treatment options (therapy, medication, etc.) and none were effective in treating her schizophrenia.

Shortly before she took her own life during a rare moment of rationality, she told me "If I was a dog, you'd put me down as an act of mercy."

She was right.

Unfortunately, due to my late wife's illness, we had a very close relationship with the local LE community and they routinely brought her home after one of her 'episodes' naked, disleveled, disoriented and terrified. Through the grace of God she never hurt anyone and the Prosecutor never brought charges - bless his heart.

While my heart breaks for the victims of Ahmed, I can't help but feel abit for him too.

During the formal investigation of my wife's suicide, the Chief of Police said to me "You know, I always thought she was going to force one of us to do this."

I fully support involuntary detaining of the violent insane.

Posted by GORT 2013-08-14 15:29|| 2013-08-14 15:29|| Front Page Top

#7 You understand the 'insanity' plea predates modern psychology. That's before all the fancy certification and 'scientific' classification and writings. That's now the fall back and excuse for allowing the modern version of 'human sacrifice' because we, which predominately includes advocates and judges, demand levels of perfection in dealing with unstable individuals. It's probably too late now to reestablish reasonable protections for society since the oligarchs would be more than happy to use a process to institutionalize people much like the Soviets to deal with political threats and not just those who present a physical danger to the community and family.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-08-14 15:55|| 2013-08-14 15:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Thanks for sharing that difficult story GORT. Says a lot about the kind of man you are, hanging in there through all of that.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-14 16:04|| 2013-08-14 16:04|| Front Page Top

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