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2013-08-20 Africa North

Egypt's Military: Doing What Germany's Should Have Done in 1933

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Posted by OldSpook 2013-08-20 12:09|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Here's a theory. If Churchill had let Poland go, then Hitler would have achieved his election promise of restoring pre-Versailles Germany. France and the UK would not have been attacked--this only happened after they declared war on Germany. There would have been war in the east between Hitler and Stalin, but the West would have largely sat that one out.

Posted by Elmearong Gurly-Brown5896 2013-08-20 14:28|| 2013-08-20 14:28|| Front Page Top

#2 To restore Germany to pre-WWI borders Hitler would have wanted Alsace-Lorriane back. The French would not have been obliging (then again, they did cough it up for about four years).

Posted by Steve White 2013-08-20 15:10|| 2013-08-20 15:10|| Front Page Top

#3 If Churchill had let Poland go, then Hitler would have achieved his election promise of restoring pre-Versailles Germany.

LOL. Yep, it's a wonderful theory. If Churchill had only thrown one more bone, seriously that's all the leader of the Folk wanted, really. :)

No.

Posted by Shipman 2013-08-20 17:18|| 2013-08-20 17:18|| Front Page Top

#4 Could also have eyeballed the low countries, wanting more ports nearby the German industrial areas, which would have placed a large navy presence uncomfortably close to Britain.

Germany was already mingling in Spain at any rate. Say they get them organized and demanding Gibraltar for Spain, do they let that go?

Such an influx of material via Suez and a lack of a Western Front could have made the difference in attacking Russia. The operations leading to Dunkirk were a disaster, but they kept Germany honest and forced them to divert resources which would have otherwise ended up going east, such as the bombing campaign vs. Malta.

Then Hitler would have been able to keep all his secret promises, such as people burning and ballistic missiles with nuclear devices.

Didn't keep his promise with Stalin, but to be fair that goes back to Teutonic times. The attack on France was very coordinated, not an "Oh Sh!t whaddwe do now?" No, one more Chamberlain victory would have been a bone too far.

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-08-20 18:57|| 2013-08-20 18:57|| Front Page Top

#5 If Churchill had let Poland go, then Hitler would have achieved his election promise of restoring pre-Versailles Germany.
And then if Hitler had attacked the USSR, and the US had stayed neutral, he might have won the Eastern Front. And then France, the Low Countries, and maybe even Britain could have followed. A European Union 50 years earlier! And Judenrein, to boot, with no Israel. What would the Palestinians do without an Israel to blame for all their woes?

Posted by Glenmore 2013-08-20 19:15|| 2013-08-20 19:15|| Front Page Top

#6 "If Churchill had only thrown one more bone, seriously that's all the leader of the Folk wanted, really."

Yep - "Peace in our time."

Pfui.

Posted by Barbara 2013-08-20 19:58|| 2013-08-20 19:58|| Front Page Top

Hitler, who had been democratically elected by a plurality of the German people?

Actually no. The NSDAP didn't have a majority when Hindenburg appointed Hitler on January 1933. And even the (no longer exactly democratic elections) did bring him the hoped for absolute majority.

No it was the infamous Enabling Act of 1933 that brought Germany down. Since a two third majority was needed for this in the Reichstag, the non-coalition parties could have prevented the Act. In that case it's quite likely that Hitlers government would have collapsed within months. Because the Reichspräsident Hindenburg still had the power to simply fire Hitler.

Maybe that would have meant civil war. We don't know. But Hitler knew very well he neeeded the well organized German Reichswehr, not his SA goons to survive. And they made the deal with the Devil.

Posted by European Conservative 2013-08-20 21:16|| 2013-08-20 21:16|| Front Page Top

#8 FWIW - Mannstein in his bio points out that when France declared war Hitler had to dust off a 20 year old contingency plan to invade, and had no plan at all for invading England. Doesn't sound like either had been on his to do list.

Posted by Woodrow Guelph8541 2013-08-20 23:43|| 2013-08-20 23:43|| Front Page Top

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