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2014-03-02 Europe

Hundreds of gunmen surround Ukraine military base

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Posted by Fred 2014-03-02 09:46|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 Putin has defied calls from the West to pull back his troops, insisting that Russia has a right to protect its interests and Russian-speakers in Crimea and elsewhere in Ukraine.

..or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, et al. Can you say Sudetenland boys and girls? They're back. They just morphed from commies to nazis which is easy as they're all socialists.

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-03-02 10:25|| 2014-03-02 10:25|| Front Page Top

#2 This will not end well.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-03-02 11:30|| 2014-03-02 11:30|| Front Page Top

#3 Depends on your definition of "well", Besoeker.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-03-02 12:14|| 2014-03-02 12:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Depends on definition of "well"? The Russians wearing the jackboots this time, instead of the Germans. A nationalistic socialist is the same regardless of label. And beware regurgitating propaganda that has been used to whip up Russian sheeple, in the form of a "threat" from "fascists" and "Nazis". No reports of this except from the usual left-wing players and Russian sycophants, and no real evidence if you examine their claims. The willingness to believe such tripe shows gullibility, a lack of critical thinking, and demonstrates a great deal of ethnic-based thinly veiled bigotry on the part of the people believing such things uncritically. All it does is make such people a useful tool/fool.

This could have been resolved without the military component - there were already votes scheduled in the Crimea for further separation from Ukraine, and further autonomy -- which would likely have lead to the anschluss that Fuhrer Putin wanted. There was no threat to the ethic Russian citizens - it was as manufactured a threat as was the mistreatment of ethnic Germans in the Sudeten or the Danzig corridor. This is thuggery and political intimidation, period.

For you, Grom, I guess you think it turns out "well" if you end up being the side wearing the jackboots. For me, Id rather there be no jackboots at all. Thats the difference between us.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-03-02 15:49|| 2014-03-02 15:49|| Front Page Top

#5 Pathological.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-03-02 15:58|| 2014-03-02 15:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Ja g(r)omsky, but only pathological if you're a soutie. :-)

Posted by Besoeker 2014-03-02 16:41|| 2014-03-02 16:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Rock spider. Hairy back.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-03-02 16:51|| 2014-03-02 16:51|| Front Page Top

#8 Insofar as we have accepted the presentation of the revolution as a fascist coup, we have delayed policies that might have stopped the killing earlier, and helped prepare the way for war. Insofar as we wish for peace and democracy, we are going to have to begin by getting the story right. Anything else is to reinforce the authoritarians and decrease a just and proper settlement.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-03-02 21:33|| 2014-03-02 21:33|| Front Page Top

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