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2014-08-12 Iraq
The U.S.'s Timid Third Iraq War
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Posted by Fred 2014-08-12 11:21|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top
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#1 Timidity in foreign affairs and military operations brings more war, not peace.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-08-12 11:58||   2014-08-12 11:58|| Front Page Top

#2 The difference maker in the North is the supply and continuous resupply of heavy weapons and ammunition to the Kurds.

The difference in the south? Nothing will happen as long as the Shia continue to deceive themselves that their corruption and nepotism are proper ways to do things, and they continue freezing out the Sunnis and abusing them in the name of payback for Saddam/Baathists.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-08-12 12:00||   2014-08-12 12:00|| Front Page Top

#3 The Shi'a are more than willing to fight. They have militias that are of some minimum quality. They don't have the logistics, training or leadership to go up against the ISIS right now. That comes with time and desperation.

Hate to say it but I think Iraq is lost. Not sure if/how the Kurds survive. They might need official Turkish protection. The Shi'a will get official Iranian protection.

Champ will then spend two years telling us all how it was someone else's fault. Maybe he'll fire Hagel.
Posted by Steve White 2014-08-12 13:34||   2014-08-12 13:34|| Front Page Top

#4 Shia aren't willing to fight anything other than Sunni, at least in Iraq. That much was learned over there years ago. They've had training, and discarded it. Their Arab+Shia "culture" promotes nepotism, corruption, and tribalism, as well as cowardice. The Shia Arabs in Iraq are for the most part paper tigers, and useless. They will ultimately need Persians to rescue them from the Sunni.


The Kurds, if logistics can be figured out, are in some pretty difficult terrain, very tightly secured, and are sort-of a "Switzerland" in that they are armed to the teeth, in tough terrain, and motivated & trained to defend it to the last man. Taking Kurdistan is far more trouble than its worth, as ISIS is finding out: when they break thru the buffer areas and run up to the actual Kurdish zones, the Kurds don't retreat from there and they get stopped hard.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-08-12 15:34||   2014-08-12 15:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Obviously, no one in the State Department or DoD ever read Machiavelli.

They avoided discord and now the enemy has picked the time and the place of the war.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2014-08-12 18:43||   2014-08-12 18:43|| Front Page Top

#6 As a OWG Globalist, the Bammer is doing his actions intentionally, wid a larger pciture or agenda in mind.

Again, GLOBALISM = HOW MUCH CAN THE "SOLE" SUPERPOWER USA GIVE UP, OR FAR CAN THE US GEOPOL OR MILPOL FALL BACK OR RETREAT, ETC, WIDOUT BEING EIXSTENIALLY THREATENED BY WANNABES, OR EVEN BY FELLOW, GLOBALIST-DESIRED, FUTURE OWG CO-SUPERPOWERS.

HOW MUCH IS "TOO MUCH", HOW FAR IS "TOO FAR", ETC. FOR THE SUPERPOWER US TO WILFULLY + UNILATERALLY, WEIRDLY-N-MYSTERIOUSLY BUT OF COURSE ONLY COINCIDENTALLY + PCORRECTLY-DENIABLY, GIVE UP OR TURN OVER TO OWG GLOBAL FEDERAL UNION-LEADING CO-SUPERPOWERS???

The ordinary Militant = Field Forces of the ISIS + similar MilTerr Groups have known only perennial poverty, Madrassa-led schooling in Islamic Fundamentalism-Radicalism since their pre-teens or childhood, + ABOVE ALL SURVIVAL BY BRUTE FORCE + VIOLENCE - THEY KNOW OR CARE LITTLE, NOTHING? ABOUT MARXISM OR IVY LEAGUE POLITICAL INTELLECTALISM-SCIENTIFISM.

* WORLD NEWS > [Ria Novosti] US AIRSTRIKES TO AGGRAVATE RADICLA ISLAMISM - NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST [Ivan Eland], whom also argues that US Airstrikes could poten foment the rise of a much more violent or dsangerous Islamist MilTerr group than the ISIS/ISIL.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-08-12 22:59||   2014-08-12 22:59|| Front Page Top

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