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2015-05-08 -Land of the Free
When The Elites Wage War On America, This Is How They Will Do It
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Posted by Besoeker 2015-05-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 You have essentially over hyped a decent training excessive that has nothing to do with politics or the fool running the Country.

It's a glorified Robin Sage or Purple Dragon.

It's best things remain business as usual as to ensure Our Fighters are able to train as realistically as possible.

Also, this training held here represents training for Other Country operations.

It's a good training plan.
Posted by newc 2015-05-08 00:33||   2015-05-08 00:33|| Front Page Top

#2 I thought they're already waging war on everything that made USA America?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-05-08 02:14||   2015-05-08 02:14|| Front Page Top

#3 
Posted by  2015-05-08 03:08||   2015-05-08 03:08|| Front Page Top

#4 OK, here's the deal. The Jade Helm exercise is told off as training easier conducted here rather than overseas. However, the single largest problem in running an operation overseas is the language barrier, i.e. they don't speak English there. They're not even pretending to deal with this in the present case.
Which by extension means the project is useless except as a dress rehearsal or walkthrough.
Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by ed in texas 2015-05-08 07:32||   2015-05-08 07:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Newc, you are sadly misguided.
Posted by jvalentour 2015-05-08 07:57||   2015-05-08 07:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Study the graphic for a moment and recall the circumstances and outcomes. Next question please.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-05-08 08:13||   2015-05-08 08:13|| Front Page Top

#7 I have no problem with it, as long as we have one programmed (see the POM) to be carried out in major blue areas as well. As I posted before, there are great opportunities to practice MOUT in Detroit et al with virtually abandoned neighborhoods.
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-05-08 08:25||   2015-05-08 08:25|| Front Page Top

#8 Proc,
You must then be in opposition to Jade Helm then because it is not happening in the big cities as you suggest and there are no plans to do so. It is not happening in liberal/progressive areas of the US and probably never will.
Posted by jvalentour 2015-05-08 08:37||   2015-05-08 08:37|| Front Page Top

#9 Should the elites decide to foolishly wage war on the citizen, they should do so with great caution. There are unintended consequences that could go on for a long time. These elites might do well to read the account of Jack Hinson, Confederate sniper. Jack Hinson.
Posted by JohnQC 2015-05-08 09:10||   2015-05-08 09:10|| Front Page Top

#10 Biggest problem will be them starting brush fires, leaving gates open or unlocked, and generally disturbing the peace. Long term Im not that concerned about the military as I am BATF and other federal forces that tend to behave like the Jackbooted thugs of your average banana republic or communist "people's paradise".
Posted by OldSpook 2015-05-08 09:28||   2015-05-08 09:28|| Front Page Top

#11 #8 - not necessarily as much as hearing the whining and crying (the lamentation of the women) of the Left when such an event happens. And they will bitch. They never are able to put themselves in other peoples (re: non-Left) 'boots' to get the perspective to understand the concerns or outrage
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-05-08 10:09||   2015-05-08 10:09|| Front Page Top

#12 Jade Helm: What It Is, What We Shouldn’t Make It Into

Hear from the guys who are in it.

Also - some background on why you freak out.
Posted by newc 2015-05-08 11:49||   2015-05-08 11:49|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks newc. I stopped reading when I got to para 10 however:

Author: Personally, I don’t buy into the conspiracy theories, but, to each his own. Just like I can provide my reasoning for believing that this is a legitimate exercise, someone on the other side can just as easily counter with their reasons why it isn’t. I have been privy to planning for similar exercises while I was with the CIA,



My underline.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-05-08 12:03||   2015-05-08 12:03|| Front Page Top

#14 Given the circumstances on our southern border, and recent revelations as to who is camping out there, this exercise would seem to be the perfect MOUT practice regimen. It's not about blending in over there - it's about blending in here so as to not tip off enemy and to be ready to react with fast, efficient and lethal force should events require. A good component of defense in depth is also to have the right mix of troop skills
Posted by Rex Mundi 2015-05-08 12:25||   2015-05-08 12:25|| Front Page Top

#15  It's not about blending in over there - it's about blending in here so as to not tip off enemy and to be ready to react with fast, efficient and lethal force should events require.

Agreed! Now all we need do is determine who the "enemy" is.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-05-08 12:47||   2015-05-08 12:47|| Front Page Top

#16 Good point - and that's up to our civilian leadership which is why so many folks are antsy. We know who the enemy is, the administration knows who the enemy is - they're just not the same enemy.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2015-05-08 14:49||   2015-05-08 14:49|| Front Page Top

#17 SOFREP also addressed the exercise in a podcast.
It sounds like the most realistic training possible.
Posted by newc 2015-05-08 16:12||   2015-05-08 16:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Starting in July, the story goes, the Pentagon will start taking over Texas and opening up tunnels hidden under abandoned Walmarts, precipitating a Chinese invasion. Yes, that’s actually the claim.

That's where I stopped reading.

That may be A claim, but it is by far not the only one nor the most plausible. That's a typical straw-man tactic or taking the farthest out whack-a-doodle and stating that as the "real" opposition thinking.

Rex Mundi asks that proper question, Who is the enemy?

Given the stated concerns of our current regime and the militarization of everyone from the IRS to the EPA serious questions are perfectly reasonable.

I actually doubt that this is a real threat because I can't see the Special Forces performing a coup for this crowd in the admin. I'd find the other way around more likely.
Posted by AlanC 2015-05-08 16:32||   2015-05-08 16:32|| Front Page Top

#19 
Posted by  2015-05-08 17:25||   2015-05-08 17:25|| Front Page Top

#20 OK, some of the stuff is a tad goofy, but the larger picture makes me more than a little uneasy.

Posse Comitatus, First Amendment, Second Amendment etc., could hit the $hitcan under the "right" circumstances as announced by POTUS under an emergency executive order.

That we even have to think about this kind of crap is a real testament to what we have "leading" this country and who put them there.

Glad I'm going to "check out" sooner than later.
Posted by Blossom Unains5562 2015-05-08 19:08||   2015-05-08 19:08|| Front Page Top

#21 It's a training exercise. No more, no less.
The other times this you did not hear about it because there is really nothing to report. That tells you how good it is.

You rarely get to train for a sweep in a supermarket for instance, not many mock ups for those.
It's a pro event, and we will pass on making sure the closing of the gates and doors when it's over.
Posted by newc 2015-05-08 21:19||   2015-05-08 21:19|| Front Page Top

#22 US Military is about the only government I totally trust. I agree with Old Spook regarding the other paramilitary-ish branches but the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines are filled with the best of America. Disliking and distrusting the administration is one thing but to just assume the folks in uniform would go along with a coup or other stuff against the American people just doesn't compute. Not in today's day and age.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-05-08 22:11||   2015-05-08 22:11|| Front Page Top

#23 It comes down to, for me, at least, trying to resolve the "good guys" from those who are "bad."

Mostly hoping that I've become too cynical.
Posted by Blossom Unains5562 2015-05-08 22:13||   2015-05-08 22:13|| Front Page Top

#24 These have sworn an Oath, and they sound like it too. These are not the drones you are looking for.
Posted by newc 2015-05-08 23:28||   2015-05-08 23:28|| Front Page Top

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