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2017-07-07 Government
Save Hearing Act S.1505 introduced by Sens. Lee and Crapo
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Posted by Besoeker 2017-07-07 08:53|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6477 views ]  Top

#1 Under the Obama admin., ATF RULE 41F suppressors were deregulated in 2016 (That was a surprise to me). Some states did not go along with this such as California, Illinois, NY, the usual suspects. The SHUSH legislation appears to further deregulate legislatively suppressors. This would be a good thing and save hearing. The NRA has had a number of articles recently in Rifleman re suppressors.
Posted by JohnQC 2017-07-07 09:28||   2017-07-07 09:28|| Front Page Top

#2 I have never shot a gun with a "silencer"/suppressor on it. However, I have read that while they do reduce the bang they are hardly silent like shown on TV and movies.

Somehow I'm not surprised.
Posted by AlanC 2017-07-07 12:42||   2017-07-07 12:42|| Front Page Top

#3 in idaho you can still buy them but they come with a mile of Fed Gov red tape
Posted by 746 2017-07-07 13:34||   2017-07-07 13:34|| Front Page Top

#4 Suppressors are currently an NFA item (national firearms act). This means they are regulated like machine guns. The nut of it is that you can still buy these items so long as they are legal in your state, but you need to fill out a bunch of federal paperwork, pay a $200 tax and wait for many, many months for approval.

This is all very silly. In many countries suppressors are *required* when hunting. They don't make the gun quiet - movies are lying to you -- but they do reduce the noise to a level which is safe on your hearing without wearing ear protection.

Naturally, the Left is apoplectic.
Posted by Iblis 2017-07-07 14:58||   2017-07-07 14:58|| Front Page Top

#5 You can buy them in CO too with the $200 fee and shit tons of paperwork.

And yeah, they are suppressors, not silencers. On a AR-15 it only lowers the noise by 22-30dB. Still a loud gunshot.

But with earplugs it makes it very nice to shoot.
Posted by DarthVader 2017-07-07 17:07||   2017-07-07 17:07|| Front Page Top

#6 Ive got one for a 22lr. It took 9 months to get the stamp. It reduces decibels by over 30. Most haering protection is good for mid twenties. Imagine shooting a bolt action 22 with hearing protection...its quieter. Dont scare the pets or piss off the wife. Its all good.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2017-07-07 18:42||   2017-07-07 18:42|| Front Page Top

#7 I've used them in the past, in a different life.
There's a local gun store/ shooting range (blatant plug -The Arms Room) where you can rent (1) full auto SMG's and (2) suppressors, and combinations thereof. They have a fully auto H&K MP5 with the integral suppressed barrel; rent's for $120/hr (last i saw). The catch is you have to buy the ammo from them.
And it does burn through some ammo!
Posted by ed in texas 2017-07-07 19:49||   2017-07-07 19:49|| Front Page Top

#8 I'd be happy to pay them for the ammo.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2017-07-07 21:33||   2017-07-07 21:33|| Front Page Top

#9 On a technical note, 30dB is huge. The scale is logarithmic and 3dB is half. So 30dB is 2^10 less energy in the sound emitted by the weapon.
Posted by rammer 2017-07-07 22:25||   2017-07-07 22:25|| Front Page Top

#10 I believe the tax of $200 for each stamp is a lot more than the suppressors cost. And it's cool listening to the .223 rounds traveling from the barrel of the rifle going down range.
Posted by texhooey 2017-07-07 23:36||   2017-07-07 23:36|| Front Page Top

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