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2018-06-19 -Land of the Free

DHS Chief Hits Back at 'Offensive' Questions at WH Briefing

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Posted by Besoeker 2018-06-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 What the other side sees:
Trump And His Allies Are Lying Through Their Teeth About Family Separations

Posted by Skidmark 2018-06-19 03:06|| 2018-06-19 03:06|| Front Page Top

#2 Besoeker

Parents who go 75mph on the interstate are also breaking the law. That doesn't mean their daughter in the backseat is taken away from them.

Posted by European Conservative 2018-06-19 03:25|| 2018-06-19 03:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Texas interstates are generally 85mph.
But you gotta wear seatbelts, EC.

Posted by Skidmark 2018-06-19 03:27|| 2018-06-19 03:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Ann Coulter Smears Immigrant Children as ‘Child Actors’

Posted by Skidmark 2018-06-19 03:28|| 2018-06-19 03:28|| Front Page Top

#5 "We're leaving, mi hija," sez Pedro.
"I'm tired of Tijuana. Yo migro,
And the gringos won't mind
If I bypass that line
To explore, at high speed, San Ysidro."

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2018-06-19 04:02|| 2018-06-19 04:02|| Front Page Top

#6 Parents who go 75mph on the interstate are also breaking the law. That doesn't mean their daughter in the backseat is taken away from them.

This ain't Bavaria.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-06-19 05:52|| 2018-06-19 05:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Poor Pedro was feeling dejected.
His family, it seems, were ejected.
He'd swerved on the pike --
Dodged himself on a bike! --
And the parts are still being collected.

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2018-06-19 06:30|| 2018-06-19 06:30|| Front Page Top

#8 EC, invading a country isn't speeding.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2018-06-19 06:34|| 2018-06-19 06:34|| Front Page Top

#9 In my part of the country the adult charge with speeding is likely to get a second charge of child endangerment with a complementary visit from Child and Youth Services. Of which the later, could indeed result in the child pulled from the home. CYS dropped a couple of high profile cases and is more than a bit defensive in the "child's" welfare.

Posted by Procopius2k 2018-06-19 06:54|| 2018-06-19 06:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen gave a good accounting of herself in the presser.

Posted by JohnQC 2018-06-19 09:28|| 2018-06-19 09:28|| Front Page Top

#11 Parents who go 75mph on the interstate are also breaking the law. That doesn't mean their daughter in the backseat is taken away from them.

Can you say moral relativism? Around here, 75 mph isn't considered all that bad. At most the driver would have to pay a fine. But if the driver is found to be under the influence that is another matter altogether. The parent would go to jail and the cops would be left with the task of figuring out what to do with the child. Hopefully the drunkard's spouse or some other close relative would be available but that is not always the case.

But the question you raise is how should we compare a minor traffic violation to the invasion of a foreign country. You can take Merkel's position that all borders should be left wide open. But the people of this country elected Donald Trump because we don't believe that. We don't want to speak Spanish, we don't want to bow down to Mecca and we don't want foreigners telling us we shouldn't defend our country.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-06-19 11:53|| 2018-06-19 11:53|| Front Page Top

#12 we don't want foreigners telling us we shouldn't defend our country

Or how fast we can drive.

Posted by Skidmark 2018-06-19 13:11|| 2018-06-19 13:11|| Front Page Top

#13 Weak example, EC, but spoken like a true EU Brussels "patriot".

Posted by Clem 2018-06-19 13:33|| 2018-06-19 13:33|| Front Page Top

#14 This is not original with me; but it's been pointed out that these families can all stay united by staying south of the border.

Posted by Tom 2018-06-19 13:45|| 2018-06-19 13:45|| Front Page Top

#15 What about the kids weeping for their parents in Trenton? What about the parents, weeping for their children in Chicago? Do the progressives prefer Central Americans to American urban dwellers?

You'll notice I cleverly avoided a hot-button issue by not distinguishing between groups of urban dwellers?

Posted by Bobby 2018-06-19 15:23|| 2018-06-19 15:23|| Front Page Top

#16 I read that something like 10k of the 12k kids were not separated from but arrived without their parents.

If this is true the discussion should be about the morality of returning a child to such an unfit parent or not. Or about what kind of culture produces a parent willing to do that.

We should also talk about why south of the border is so bad that folks risk death in the desert to escape, why it has been so bad for decades, and what could done about it.

Posted by rjschwarz 2018-06-19 15:44|| 2018-06-19 15:44|| Front Page Top

#17 "Trump Says Democrats Want Immigrants to ‘Infest’ the U.S."

Out of respect for this board I won't mention where I've heard these words before. But maybe I don't have to.

Posted by European Conservative 2018-06-19 17:07|| 2018-06-19 17:07|| Front Page Top

#18 We're not trying to ship them out, EC. We just want them to stay home.

Posted by Bobby 2018-06-19 17:11|| 2018-06-19 17:11|| Front Page Top

#19 "Trump Says Democrats Want Immigrants to ‘Infest’ the U.S."

Since 1994 unchecked immigration has resulted in immigrant swarming of Johannesburg, Pretoria, Bloemfontain, and other South African cities and towns. The result:

a. A ready pool of very cheap labor.
b. Instant government dependency.
c. Huge expansion of government funded police and security services.
d. The flight of whites.
e. Huge numbers of new African National Congress (ANC) members.

Anyone spot any similarities ?

Posted by Besoeker 2018-06-19 17:20|| 2018-06-19 17:20|| Front Page Top

#20 ...why it has been so bad for ~~decades~~ generations, and what could done about it.

FIFY!

We're not trying to ship them out, EC. We just want them to stay home.

No, we definitely want to ship them back and for the rest of them to stay home.

Posted by Lampedusa Uluter1671 2018-06-19 20:14|| 2018-06-19 20:14|| Front Page Top

#21 "Trump Says Democrats Want Immigrants to ‘Infest’ the U.S."

Democrats want poor, illiterate people because those people are reliable voters for the Democrat Party. Poor, illiterate people want free health care, welfare, rent control and $15 an hour for flipping hamburgers. Democrats are more than willing to provide these things for the poor, illiterate people at the expense of people who work and pay taxes. It's no secret.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-06-19 20:27|| 2018-06-19 20:27|| Front Page Top

#22 ...you spelled Socialist wrong.

Posted by Procopius2k 2018-06-19 21:35|| 2018-06-19 21:35|| Front Page Top

#23

Out of respect for this board I won't mention where I've heard these words before.

Because foreign citizens are the same as citizens who are members of a minority? Because "stay home" is the same as "exterminate them"?

It's not America's fault Europe got together and tried real hard to kill all the Jews, then in bizarre misplaced guilt have since been trying to either finish the job via proxy or import the most rabid Jew-haters alive. Take your guilty feelings, fold them so they're all corners, and stuff them up Brussels.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2018-06-19 21:40|| 2018-06-19 21:40|| Front Page Top

#24 "Trump Says Democrats Want Immigrants to ‘Infest’ the U.S."

Out of respect for this board I won't mention where I've heard these words before.

I searched “Trump immigrants”and got the following headline from Yahoo among others:

Trump says immigrants will 'infest our country' in Twitter tirade, as US border row rages on

Then I read the article, as one does, and discovered that Yahoo had included the tweet in question:

Donald J. Trump✔
@realDonaldTrump
Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
9:52 AM - Jun 19, 2018

Emphasis is mine. European Conservative, there is a big difference between legal and illegal immigrants, as there is a different big difference between immigrants, whether legal or illegal, and refugees and asylum seekers.

Posted by trailing wife 2018-06-19 22:40|| 2018-06-19 22:40|| Front Page Top

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