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2019-01-05 -Land of the Free

House Democrats Gear Up to Introduce Their First Gun Control Bill of The New Congress

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Posted by Besoeker 2019-01-05 03:58|| || Front Page|| [10 views ] Top

#1 And I'm gearing up to purchase my first gun.

Can't decide which will perform best as a real SHTF tool.

Posted by AlanC 2019-01-05 08:48|| 2019-01-05 08:48|| Front Page Top

#2 You probably want more than one, AlanC.

Posted by Glenmore 2019-01-05 09:17|| 2019-01-05 09:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Depends on where you live and what you are going to use it for. A 410/22 combo is a great survival firearm for in the country/woods and can nab varmints and birds. Not high on the self defense scale though.

In a city, a 12 gauge or a AR-15 is a better choice for self defense.

Ideally, I would at least suggest a 22 for survival and a 12 gauge for hunting/defense.

Posted by DarthVader 2019-01-05 10:26|| 2019-01-05 10:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Is the federal shutdown affecting the sale of guns?

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2019-01-05 11:45|| 2019-01-05 11:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Getting into guns? Get a good pistol, 9mm (see below for why a 9), and the 410/22 shotgun/rifle is a great suggestion for a starter longarm.

Survival? you need a decent shotgun, a good pistol, and a 22 rifle.

For the 22, take what you like. You can't go wrong with a Ruger 10/22 - its an easy rifle, and once you decide to modify it, there are tons of kits and oprtions out there to turn it into all kinds "tacticool" looks as well as adding to the functionality. Marlin isnt a bad option either.

Shotgun? 12ga because its deadly, dead simple, plentiful ammunition, and has multiple practical uses in home defense and hunting. 870 is the most common here, and like the 22 above, lots of hardware modifications you can do to make it to your liking.

Last but not least: a reliable 9mm pistol. Some will criticize the round, but plentiful and cheaper ammunition makes that a moot point if you're talking survival or actually putting in a lot of range time to get good with it - as well as having a lower "flinch" factor and kick, something people overlook for new gun owners. Find one you like and spend a lot of range time with it because for the most part, practice is more important than the brand and caliber. If you want a bigger round, move up to it after you get good with your 9.

Plenty of good 9mm pistols out there, my favorite is the Glock because there are a ton of them around, they hold a ton of ammo in the standard magazine, they last a long time, they are very simple to operate and maintain, and not all that expensive, especially if you buy a used one in good shape.

YMMV, welcome to the gun world.

Posted by Injun Bucket8891 2019-01-05 12:48|| 2019-01-05 12:48|| Front Page Top

#6 "his legislation will finally pass the House"

...and die quietly in the Senate.

The Dems havent changed a bit. Demagougery and noise, no real substance unless its to expand the power and reach of government at the expense of regular citizens, or to grant favors to their voting blocs and rich patrons.

Posted by Injun Bucket8891 2019-01-05 12:52|| 2019-01-05 12:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Wouldn't it be nice if they could send a draft of this sort of thing to the Supreme Court and get a 'not a freaking chance' ahead of time. Save a lot of anxiety all around.

Posted by ruprecht 2019-01-05 14:59|| 2019-01-05 14:59|| Front Page Top

#8 The entire goal is to get the law on the books long enough (before the Supreme Court overthrows it) to allow them to get their lists established. I have no doubt there is a little phrase in there to require retroactive registration.

Posted by CrazyFool 2019-01-05 15:32|| 2019-01-05 15:32|| Front Page Top

#9 I wonder why it took so long (sarc)?

Posted by JohnQC 2019-01-05 16:45|| 2019-01-05 16:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Thank you gentle folk for the advice.

I learned to shoot in scouts a loooooooooong time ago and have pulled a trigger now and then since.

The sea change is A) the kids are all gone and B) my wife, the hoplophobe, has decided that the gov't under the lefty DemSocs is more frightening than me with a bang stick AND we move to New Hampshire from the Peoples Republic of Mass.

I've been researching for a while and for nothing other than aesthetics like the looks of the CZ 75 pistol and their 457 Lux .22 etc.

From my research at Nation of Riflemen I've seen many recommendations. One that is interesting is a Henry or Marlin lever gun in .357 paired with a Ruger revolver.

The problem is that there are too many choices.

Posted by AlanC 2019-01-05 16:47|| 2019-01-05 16:47|| Front Page Top

#11 Ref #10. Excellent choices.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-01-05 18:17|| 2019-01-05 18:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Home defense - I have a short barrel Winchester pump 12 GA. No penetrating power to endanger others and the "snick-snick" sound says more than I can verbally about the situation they're in

Posted by Frank G 2019-01-05 18:38|| 2019-01-05 18:38|| Front Page Top

#13 Everyone should own a full size 9mm pistol. (Beretta 9s is good) An AR-15 - many different makes. And a 12ga pump action.

Posted by Hellfish 2019-01-05 22:53|| 2019-01-05 22:53|| Front Page Top

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