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2019-03-01 India-Pakistan

Muslim world’s lagging behind in science bemoaned

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Posted by Fred 2019-03-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11 views ] Top
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#1 Pakistan had a Nobel winner in Physics. Mohamed Abdus Salam, an Amadi Muslim from Pakistan, won the Nobel in 1979 with Weinberg and Glasshow for Electro Weak unification.

Posted by Albemarle Gray4543 2019-03-01 01:03|| 2019-03-01 01:03|| Front Page Top

#2 I thought you and the democrats created "science"?

Posted by newc 2019-03-01 01:13|| 2019-03-01 01:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Not doing so well in the, formerly, West too.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-03-01 01:35|| 2019-03-01 01:35|| Front Page Top

#4 but they've memorized the Holy Crayon

Posted by Frank G 2019-03-01 07:11|| 2019-03-01 07:11|| Front Page Top

#5 they gave arithmetic

Posted by 746 2019-03-01 07:13|| 2019-03-01 07:13|| Front Page Top

#6 ^ Ummm no. All pre-MoHamHead

The earliest written records indicate the Egyptians and Babylonians used all the elementary arithmetic operations as early as 2000 BC. These artifacts do not always reveal the specific process used for solving problems, but the characteristics of the particular numeral system strongly influence the complexity of the methods. The hieroglyphic system for Egyptian numerals, like the later Roman numerals, descended from tally marks used for counting. In both cases, this origin resulted in values that used a decimal base but did not include positional notation. Complex calculations with Roman numerals required the assistance of a counting board or the Roman abacus to obtain the results.

Early number systems that included positional notation were not decimal, including the sexagesimal (base 60) system for Babylonian numerals and the vigesimal (base 20) system that defined Maya numerals. Because of this place-value concept, the ability to reuse the same digits for different values contributed to simpler and more efficient methods of calculation.

The continuous historical development of modern arithmetic starts with the Hellenistic civilization of ancient Greece, although it originated much later than the Babylonian and Egyptian examples. Prior to the works of Euclid around 300 BC, Greek studies in mathematics overlapped with philosophical and mystical beliefs. For example, Nicomachus summarized the viewpoint of the earlier Pythagorean approach to numbers, and their relationships to each other, in his Introduction to Arithmetic.

Posted by Frank G 2019-03-01 07:43|| 2019-03-01 07:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Islam. Just need the Koran.
Socialists. Just need Das Kapital.

Seems to be a pattern.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-03-01 08:56|| 2019-03-01 08:56|| Front Page Top

#8 The conception that the Muslim world was the leading light in science at the time Europe was in the dark (or at least pre-dawn) ages is correct, but ignores the fact that their pre-eminence came from conquering and co-opting the then-leading Greek science base, particularly in Alexandria.

Given that the Koran and Hadith are basically spooky-mystical, Islamic scientific progress has suffered greatly since then. On the other hand, the current "intersectionality/diversity/pick any gender but pizza" fads in western education will even the playing field and we'll all be digging in the dirt with a stick in a few years.

Posted by Crapper Splat1312 2019-03-01 12:18|| 2019-03-01 12:18|| Front Page Top

#9 The Arabs did manage to give the world two major things that have made the modern world possible though. Their sails (further modified of course) made colonization of the Americas possible, and Arabic numerals were vastly superior to the Roman ones still in use in Europe even in the beginning of the Renaissance. But since then, Islam has basically given people war, plagues, and heartache, to varying degrees.

Posted by Vernal Hatrack2366 2019-03-01 13:42|| 2019-03-01 13:42|| Front Page Top

#10 Lateen sail - 2nd century AD, Roman.
"Arabic" numerals - 5th century India.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-03-01 14:03|| 2019-03-01 14:03|| Front Page Top

#11 Mohamed Abdus Salam, an Amadi Muslim from Pakistan

Following the loss of Bangladesh, in 1974 Prime Minister, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto constitutionally redefined the Ahmadi sect as not Muslim. As far as I can tell, functionally the Ahmadiyyas were, until that moment, the Gulenists of Pakistan, so their takedown from positions of leadership throughout Pakistani society was gleefully pursued by those who had been outcompeted by them. Much more here.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-03-01 14:10|| 2019-03-01 14:10|| Front Page Top

#12 Interesting, thanks for the links Gromgoru.

Posted by Vernal Hatrack2366 2019-03-01 17:25|| 2019-03-01 17:25|| Front Page Top

#13 So Islam really has offered nothing useful to civilization...

Posted by Vernal Hatrack2366 2019-03-01 17:26|| 2019-03-01 17:26|| Front Page Top

#14 And then there's opportunity cost...

Depict for us Europe, O fictor,
Unsqueezed by an Arab constrictor,
And Rome in the East
Still secure in her lease
Till the Mongols arrive to evict her.

Or not.

Posted by Elmeaque Snomoque3655 2019-03-01 23:48|| 2019-03-01 23:48|| Front Page Top

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