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2019-08-26 Afghanistan
There is another way for peace in Afghanistan; Strengthening the Security Forces
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Posted by trailing wife 2019-08-26 04:53|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6494 views ]  Top

#1 They are being strengthened, even now. Armaments and tactics have to be trained into a military, it's not enough just dumping stuff into the desert. It takes time. The timetable got screwed because of news of the pullout. Clearly, the American adventure here is over. It's just humanitarian obligation keeping them from ditching these poor bastards. I don't blame them for trying and failing. India is no less non-committal with her 'friends'.

Trump was right though. You cannot be expected to descend to the level required for this conflict. The solution rests even beyond killing 10 million. It entails suppressing the assumed rights of every person in a foreign geographic area, of an un-relatable social demographic for years, expecting them to understand and accept it's all for the better.

Even if you carpet bomb the shit out of them, de-populate to an extent when only pro-democracy natives are left (which is impossible), you cannot cure the inherent tribal factionalism in the culture itself. Say, you were able to convert them all to some progressive idea of islam which featured coexistence, it would still require another decade of sacrifice of US personnel (or somebody's personnel) and a belligerent Pakistain always interfering, with the UN yapping at your heels.

No. Leave them be, give them a fighting chance, isolate the Pakistanis and their ISI menagerie of sasquatches, sanction their meddling and presence in Afghanistan. Limit China's economic spending in other nations.

If the Afghan govt still loses to the Taliban, a war is ensured between ISIS and taliban. When the blood from that spills over into the world's consciences, begin to blame it all on Pakistain. India and the Afghans will gladly supply 'proof' for their culpability.

Finally, have India nuke Quetta (in an October, when the South-west monsoon winds recede). Not by much, say... 10 KT ? When they try to escalate, the US must bring the power of the entire 'civilized' world to bear on them, lest they initiate MAD. By December, there can be thanksgiving packages being dropped as aid into outlying affected regions. Repairs and nursing of a shocked 'Stain. Trump's not the villain, he stopped the war. It was India's nuke.

But all this would require a synchronized effort with India growing balls and pitching in for the whole ride. And for all of us to outgrow our faux-humanist ideals. Don't worry, we'll still be better than those people who'd kill millions per day, sparing only rich Tofu eaters.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-08-26 08:06||   2019-08-26 08:06|| Front Page Top

#2 I had the good fortune to speak to an American Afghan soldier. On his way to DC. He was a trainer for our troops. Pleasant fellow.
Posted by Dale 2019-08-26 15:09||   2019-08-26 15:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Linguistics and terrain ? Some of your early arrivals from Ist infantry div needed training, but not any more. Maybe he was from Zabul or Nangarhar ?

They are awesome guys. Most of them are atheists by now, ready to talk about anything. With Indians they are especially pally. We share a centuries old connexion after all, it used to be one kingdom most of it. The anomaly is Pakistan, carved out by mostly Indian deposed rulers and fanatics pining for the Mughal Empire.

Afghans are the best allies in a battle against muslim enemies too. The tenacity of Vikings with the scuttling capability of Kurds.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-08-26 20:37||   2019-08-26 20:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Pakistano delenda est
Posted by Lex 2019-08-26 21:54||   2019-08-26 21:54|| Front Page Top

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