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2020-03-31 China-Japan-Koreas
North Korea said on Monday that it had lost all appetite for dialogue with the United States
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Posted by Fred 2020-03-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top
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#1 China just told Pudge to knock it off with the fraternization.
Posted by SteveS 2020-03-31 00:44||   2020-03-31 00:44|| Front Page Top

#2 I thought losing taste and smell was one of the first signs.
Posted by Skidmark 2020-03-31 00:50||   2020-03-31 00:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Dangle a ribeye in front of them. Watch them do tricks.
Posted by Hupaiting Ulelet8252 2020-03-31 00:52||   2020-03-31 00:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Doesn’t anyone here sleep?
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2020-03-31 01:17||   2020-03-31 01:17|| Front Page Top

#5 A restaurant in a Pittsburgh suburb back when I lived there had their sign reading "Cajun blackened pit bull" until the Boro council made them take it down.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-03-31 01:37||   2020-03-31 01:37|| Front Page Top

#6 It's back!
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-31 02:41||   2020-03-31 02:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Herb sort of ignores two thousand years of history between the Middle Kingdom and Korea.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-03-31 07:18||   2020-03-31 07:18|| Front Page Top

#8 So, I'm curious: can anyone actually make a case for China controlling North Korea?

Like I posted Herb, go read up on 2 thousand years of Chinese - Korean history. China has a long memory. What once was theirs belongs to them as far as they're concerned. Quit avoiding having to do the hard reading so you can just wave your hand and dismiss any counter argument as ad hominem.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-03-31 08:09||   2020-03-31 08:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Herb's a fool or tool. Your pick. Why not both?
If China shut Nork off they would be dead, juche or no-juche
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-31 08:39||   2020-03-31 08:39|| Front Page Top

#10 If China shut Nork off they would be dead, juche or no-juche

But they'll take South Korea with them - was it 27000 artillery pieces pointed at Seoul?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-31 08:46||   2020-03-31 08:46|| Front Page Top

#11 IMO, the PRC relationship w NKor is somewhat like the relationship between an adult gangster
and a drug dependent child.

The 'puppet' analogy doesn't work well but neither does the 'independent actor' analogy.

Posted by lord garth 2020-03-31 09:05||   2020-03-31 09:05|| Front Page Top

#12 Ref #12. ....27000 artillery pieces pointed at Seoul?

Takes a big cannon to hurl a projectile more than 25 miles. I doubt few of he 27000 have the capability.
Posted by Besoeker 2020-03-31 09:08||   2020-03-31 09:08|| Front Page Top

#13 #14 (a) Koksan, (b) KPAGF artillery.
In 1987, several M-1978s were supplied to Iran, and used during the Iran–Iraq War. When using rocket-assisted projectiles, a range of almost 60 kilometres (37 mi) could be achieved
If they had 60 km in 1987...
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-31 09:30||   2020-03-31 09:30|| Front Page Top

#14 Considering that when they targeted the ROK island a while back, a good chunk missed and those that hit were 25% duds, the sea of fire for Seoul may only be a mild forest fire.
Posted by DarthVader 2020-03-31 09:32||   2020-03-31 09:32|| Front Page Top

#15 #17 So because things happened thousands of years ago it means it can't change today?

Says the guy who prays at the shrine of General Smedley Butler
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-31 10:05||   2020-03-31 10:05|| Front Page Top

#16 Still waiting for citations and arguments to prove that today's North Korea is a Chinese lackey.

So let me get this straight - you make a statement / assertion, P2k (and others) advise you to read some history, and now you're asking them to provide you with evidence that they're right? I'm pretty sure it's not gonna work that way.
Posted by Raj 2020-03-31 10:21||   2020-03-31 10:21|| Front Page Top

#17 In other words, Herb - shouldn't it be on you to prove you're right?

I don't like or dislike you (although g(r)om sucks - he's an asshole), so don't take my posts as such.
Posted by Raj 2020-03-31 10:24||   2020-03-31 10:24|| Front Page Top

#18 1. North Korea has consistently refused to follow China's model. The one that China introduced to Burma and the Burmese are going gangbusters with.

2. Kim Jong-Un purged all of his father's pro-China advisers. He wouldn't have done that if he was going to follow China's advice.

"Norks are a Chinese puppet" hasn't been true for decades. If they were, they would have opened up and become fantastically rich by now.

Prove me wrong. Cite sources. Present evidence. You know, argue.
Posted by Herb McCoy 2020-03-31 10:33||   2020-03-31 10:33|| Front Page Top

#19 #6 But the Norks would have none of it

In this case history and other countries do not apply. Because Herb? NK is a dictatorship, has been for decades.
Posted by Woodrow 2020-03-31 10:42||   2020-03-31 10:42|| Front Page Top

#20 #22 It's not a dictatorship, it has a hereditary God-King.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-31 10:46||   2020-03-31 10:46|| Front Page Top

#21 IMO, the PRC relationship w NKor is somewhat like the relationship between an adult gangster
and a drug dependent child.

That's a most succinct description of this particular geopolitical situation.

Says the guy who prays at the shrine of General Smedley Butler

And that's a Snark of the Day.

I bet if we sent newly-appointed Ambassador Dennis Rodman to NKor with cognac, the aforementioned ribeyes and some "groupies", we could nudge Pudge a little further away from the Chicoms. Worth doing for the entertainment value alone.
Posted by SteveS 2020-03-31 10:48||   2020-03-31 10:48|| Front Page Top

#22 Communism is toxic. I encourage all who believe in "communism lite" to immediately begin taking 10% arsenic in their food and water to prove their point.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-03-31 12:06||   2020-03-31 12:06|| Front Page Top

#23 Kim Jong-Un is a dictator? Really? I thought the consensus was that he is way, way, way too young to be leader and that he's more of a face man for the real power in North Korea.

A couple of blogs people might enjoy reading: https://www.38north.org/ and https://www.libertyinnorthkorea.org/blog/. Or not. I mean, people seem to despise learning new things and are sticking to their North Korea knowledge back when they served near the DMZ back in the 1970s.
Posted by Herb McCoy 2020-03-31 12:45||   2020-03-31 12:45|| Front Page Top

#24 And on schedule, out comes the chinese bellringer.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-03-31 13:20||   2020-03-31 13:20|| Front Page Top

#25 Doesn’t anyone here sleep?

Like Chuck Norris, Rantburg does not sleep. It waits.
Posted by Marilyn Tojo7566 2020-03-31 17:05||   2020-03-31 17:05|| Front Page Top

#26 38 North is all over Rantburg’s North Korea section, Herb. North Korea was Dr. Steve’s beat when he was a moderator.
Posted by trailing wife 2020-03-31 22:39||   2020-03-31 22:39|| Front Page Top

#27  I mean, people seem to despise learning new things and are sticking to their North Korea knowledge back when they served near the DMZ back in the 1970s.

Yeah...go to a party Erb.
How many will your Mom's basement hold?
Posted by Skidmark 2020-03-31 23:32||   2020-03-31 23:32|| Front Page Top

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