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2020-10-30 Science & Technology

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Posted by charger 2020-10-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Oi vey, oi vey, oi vey.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 03:53|| 2020-10-30 03:53|| Front Page Top

#2 Lockdown just delays herd immunity and the relief that brings.

group punishment Lockdown just isolates the elderly longer as the virus will inevitably re-emerge for another moar biggar tier N+1 lockdown which will do nothing.

Those under 50 (who do not bubble with those at risk) should be ENCOURAGED out and self vaccinate, 86% of them won't even know they caught it.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-30 04:27|| 2020-10-30 04:27|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm surprised proponents of Herd Immunity do not volunteer to be deliberately infected. Really I am.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 05:06|| 2020-10-30 05:06|| Front Page Top

#4 For our Lockdown Fanatic:
Twelve graphs prove masks are useless against COVID-19

Posted by Frank G 2020-10-30 07:05|| 2020-10-30 07:05|| Front Page Top

#5 Here's one more...from 1918:

Posted by Clem 2020-10-30 07:12|| 2020-10-30 07:12|| Front Page Top

#6 Masks don't work. Earth is flat. And "covid sceptics" are not an argument for eugenics.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 07:28|| 2020-10-30 07:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Well I already had it.

But I would volunteer to stay near COVID infected. Wouldn't go near the vaccine though.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-30 08:29|| 2020-10-30 08:29|| Front Page Top

#8 The Chinese pandemic gave birth to two new --- IMO, totally irrational --- movements in USA: Antifa & Covid sceptics. Both groups would, vehemently, reject any claims of resemblance between them. However, IMO, both groups posses startling similarities.
(1) Psychological origins --- both comprised of people whose self-image: their sense of their own importance --- was shaken by the pandemic.
(2) Both groups rely on pseudoscientific theories: systemic racism for Antifa; and Herd Immunity for the other.
(3) Both constantly provide fake evidence produced for their respective markets by would be celebrity "scientists". We know that most social "scientists" are scumvermin, but it's sad to see how many renegades where are among biologists, and how many narrow specialization MD think they're universal experts.
(4) The only difference, IMO, is that Antifa (being, on average, younger & more drugged) have the courage of their convictions - whereas the covid deniers wear masks, practice distancing, and express their frustrations via verbal violence on sites like Rantburg.

Well, we know Antifa hurt their side's election chances - lets hope that the damage done to Trump by "covid sceptics" is nullified by the Antifa effect on Demonrats.

Mind you, if Trump wins, "covid sceptics" just might discover that he made 180 degree turn on covid, and will follow European examples.

Meanwhile, I'm just happy I live in Israel - where enforcement* of mask rules cut covid infection rates by order of magnitude in 3 weeks.

*Enforcement is really the key - because there are too many people uncapable of thinking beyond immediate gratification in modern western societies.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 08:56|| 2020-10-30 08:56|| Front Page Top

#9 ^Which cereal brand has the "armchair psychiatrist" kit in the box?

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-10-30 08:59|| 2020-10-30 08:59|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 Well I already had it.
Ahh, that's why you have this irrational need to believe in Herd Immunity.

But I would volunteer to stay near COVID infected.
Well, keep exposing yourself, and you'll provide evidence for reinfection --- just keep in mind, that most reported reinfections appear to be more severe than the primary one (you might want to read up on Th1/Th2 cross-regulation).

Wouldn't go near the vaccine though.

With the way things going - thanks largely to covid sceptics - I suspect nobody will be asking for your consent (You might want to click on this link).

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 09:11|| 2020-10-30 09:11|| Front Page Top

#11 You can always tell the authoritarians. They want to punish any skepticism from their delivered "Truth™". Nobody argues flat earth here, fool, but you have to throw that straw man in to buttress your "argument". You win no converts with that charming personality trait

Posted by Frank G 2020-10-30 09:12|| 2020-10-30 09:12|| Front Page Top

#12 I have never taken a flu shot, and I sure as egesta won't take a vaccine voluntarily.

Posted by Clem 2020-10-30 10:15|| 2020-10-30 10:15|| Front Page Top

#13 If the gummint tries to mandate it, the side effects will be widespread, nasty and not limited to the vaccine itself...

Posted by Lampedusa Grumble8367 2020-10-30 10:45|| 2020-10-30 10:45|| Front Page Top

#14 (grom, your ass is showing)

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-30 11:19|| 2020-10-30 11:19|| Front Page Top

#15 You children are not my problem. You're Trump's problem - I'm being optimistic here.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 11:37|| 2020-10-30 11:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Trump's problem seems to be what we're going to do with all this economy.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-30 11:47|| 2020-10-30 11:47|| Front Page Top

#17 ^From your mouth to the ear of G*d

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 11:53|| 2020-10-30 11:53|| Front Page Top

#18 Well, we're going trick-or-treating and by the sound of it, the community is as well. Have a wicked cool wooden cane accented by a carved fox head on the handle I'm going to build around.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-30 12:38|| 2020-10-30 12:38|| Front Page Top

#19 ^ Barnabas Collins' cane, silver wolf's head.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-10-30 12:54|| 2020-10-30 12:54|| Front Page Top

#20 You know. I have a top hat and a long coat...

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-30 13:37|| 2020-10-30 13:37|| Front Page Top

#21 I see Captain Covid has been back today with more of his bullshit.

Posted by Crusader 2020-10-30 14:09|| 2020-10-30 14:09|| Front Page Top

#22 Come on, he's "being optimistic here". (Sorry, g(r)om, that made me chuckle.)

Posted by Clem 2020-10-30 14:10|| 2020-10-30 14:10|| Front Page Top

#23 I'm surprised proponents of Herd Immunity do not volunteer to be deliberately infected.
Grom, that's pretty much what my wife has done (and thus carried me along.) She tried the lockdown for a couple of months and decided she'd probably die of depression if she continued, so she switched to moderate interaction.

Posted by Glenmore 2020-10-30 14:53|| 2020-10-30 14:53|| Front Page Top

#24 But there is no herd immunity - coronaviruses don't induce long term memory: you can, probably, find it even in wikipedia. In this, pop-sci, paper for sure: 35 Years of Research Into Coronavirus Infections Show Long-Term Immunity Is Unlikely. And the data from other coronaviruses has been now confirmed by covid19 reinfections.
So, you better wait until Eli Lilly or Regeneron monoclonal antibodies become available

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 15:31|| 2020-10-30 15:31|| Front Page Top

#25 ...Even these only work on mild/moderate not serious cases.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 15:48|| 2020-10-30 15:48|| Front Page Top

#26 Finally, Coronavirus: ‘Futile and immoral’ to seek herd immunity, says Sweden’s chief epidemiologist

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-30 15:51|| 2020-10-30 15:51|| Front Page Top

#27 https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/29/these-12-graphs-show-mask-mandates-do-nothing-to-stop-covid/

Posted by Airandee 2020-10-30 17:55|| 2020-10-30 17:55|| Front Page Top

#28 I see the covid is getting the Michael Bay treatment. Songbird.

Geesh.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-30 19:47|| 2020-10-30 19:47|| Front Page Top

#29 Hysterican Pie (to g(r)om w/all due respect)

It was
A long, long time ago
And I can still remember
How Aramis Katzarse used to make me sigh
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make my keyboard dance
And maybe he'd just shut up
For a while
But the east Med`s isles did achibber
With every missive he delibbered
Bad news in the in-box
Green horse poop
Day-old socks
And I can`t remember how I fared
When about his threads
I ceased to care
But something calmed me deep inside
The day his comments died

Posted by JHH 2020-10-30 20:12|| 2020-10-30 20:12|| Front Page Top

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