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2020-10-30 Europe
Former French President Hints at Removing Turkey from NATO
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Posted by Fred 2020-10-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ]  Top
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#1 Without Turkey in NATO, we cannot outflank Russia. With Turkey in NATO, we can invade them from two directions simultaneously, greatly complicating their defense. The Germans failed to get Turkey on their side and lost, let's not repeat the same mistake.
Posted by Jaiger Sleath7993 2020-10-30 00:40||   2020-10-30 00:40|| Front Page Top

#2 How about removing us from NATO? That's what I'm talking about.
Posted by Raj 2020-10-30 00:40||   2020-10-30 00:40|| Front Page Top

#3 The Germans failed to get Turkey on their side and lost, let's not repeat the same mistake.
...And the Kaiser had the Ottomans as allies in WW-1, what exactly is your point?
Posted by magpie 2020-10-30 02:14||   2020-10-30 02:14|| Front Page Top

#4 French political system will lose totally to Ms Le Pen if they don’t do something quick regarding everything Muslim.
Posted by 3dc 2020-10-30 04:56||   2020-10-30 04:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Why would you want to invade Russia? It's a threat, but to its neighbors and thus a certain degree of regional stability. I don't see Russians conducting open terrorist operations against the west as another foreign agents do. Got to remember we sided with Stalin against Hitler. Sometimes you don't get the 'ally' you want.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-10-30 06:26||   2020-10-30 06:26|| Front Page Top

#6 @ #2 - Hear, hear, Raj. We should have begun the process on 10 November 1989.
Posted by Clem 2020-10-30 06:48||   2020-10-30 06:48|| Front Page Top

#7 The Harris administration is going to invade Russia. A two-prong strategy has a higher probability of success. The Germans lost in part because they only came from one direction. We won't make that same mistake twice. We will also be bringing winter coats this time.
Posted by Jaiger Sleath7993 2020-10-30 07:25||   2020-10-30 07:25|| Front Page Top

#8 
Posted by Jiling Gravitch9209 2020-10-30 10:17||   2020-10-30 10:17|| Front Page Top

#9 When do you think this supposed invasion of russia is going to begin? Fuck turkey and fuck your invasion plans.
Posted by Chris 2020-10-30 10:18||   2020-10-30 10:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Invade Russia? Sure.
Fair's fair. Russkies invaded our congresscritters' brains, after all
Posted by Spolung Ulomoting4320 2020-10-30 10:33||   2020-10-30 10:33|| Front Page Top

#11 Invade Russia? LOL. Has someone been watching Dr. Strangelove?
Posted by Clem 2020-10-30 10:38||   2020-10-30 10:38|| Front Page Top

#12 Why wouldn't Harris invade Russia? They are nothing but trouble. They meddled in the US elections. They support Syria. They require an expensive ring of bases to keep contained. They have nuclear weapons. Regime change in Moscow and it's all over.

Realize, people, that a global governance is at hand. This means smashing and conquering the last few holdouts - Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Sudan, Syria, North Korea. China comes last, as they're still useful.

Unless Trump's re-elected in which case peace breaks out.
Posted by Jaiger Sleath7993 2020-10-30 11:36||   2020-10-30 11:36|| Front Page Top

#13 Turkey is like California, in that the territory and geography is useful, but a majority of the people occupying them are useless (note I didn't say all the people, just a majority).
Posted by charger 2020-10-30 12:19||   2020-10-30 12:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Or. NATO and Russia can outflank Turkey and punch Erdy right in the dick.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-30 12:42||   2020-10-30 12:42|| Front Page Top

#15 ^ don't you make that deal in Diplomacy?
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-10-30 13:09||   2020-10-30 13:09|| Front Page Top

#16  Without Turkey in NATO, we cannot outflank Russia.


Some ignorant thoughts triggered by that statement:

  • Can we not stage out of Alaska, if we were really to go to war with them?
  • What about the new bases in Poland?
  • And looking at it Napoleonically, how interesting would it be for the parties involved if we set things up so that if Russia wanted to invade Europe it would have to go through Turkey? There is a term for that that I can’t remember... something like a shooting gallery?
    • Posted by trailing wife 2020-10-30 13:19||   2020-10-30 13:19|| Front Page Top

    #17 ^ A Turkey shoot?
    Posted by Frank G 2020-10-30 13:25||   2020-10-30 13:25|| Front Page Top

    #18 While bears are hibernating? That wouldn't be cricket.
    Posted by Clem 2020-10-30 13:58||   2020-10-30 13:58|| Front Page Top

    #19 If you wanted to outflank Russia there are many options. Russia is a very big nation.
    Posted by rjschwarz 2020-10-30 16:41||   2020-10-30 16:41|| Front Page Top

    #20  "A Turkey shoot?"

    Fishes in a barrel?
    Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2020-10-30 18:02||   2020-10-30 18:02|| Front Page Top

    #21 #1 never saw The Princess Bride.
    Posted by JHH 2020-10-30 18:09||   2020-10-30 18:09|| Front Page Top

    #22  "A Turkey shoot?"

    Fishes in a barrel?

    I wasn’t making a clever joke on purpose — the term came up in discussions here on Rantburg when OldSpook and a number of others were explaining the benefits of building a wall only along the busiest portions of America’s southern border rather than the entire distance from California to whatever state is farthest east on the Mexican border, which would funnel illegal border crossers into a few small areas where they could be easily shot by a few defenders.
    Posted by trailing wife 2020-10-30 21:07||   2020-10-30 21:07|| Front Page Top

    #23 Not misunderstood, TW. I was trying for irony, apparently, I missed
    Posted by Frank G 2020-10-30 21:31||   2020-10-30 21:31|| Front Page Top

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